cityrebel Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 10 hours ago, teaboy279 said: Ironically the complaints come mainly from one road, that road has a music festival taking place at a social club at the end of its road this summer, wonder how the locals will enjoy that.... Interestingly I believe the site still has permission to host Football matches upto 11.30pm wuth no restriction on days, and i think still has per.ission to hold 4 outside music events, making this decision and the objections a lot more baffling. I know the place you mean. I bet the locals use that club on a regular basis, especially at weekends! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 Sadly for me it means fewer visits as Monday travelling is not as good as Saturdays. Does anybody know, is this the end of the matter or can an appeal go to a higher Authority ? Seems to me that the reasons given for refusal do not hold water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted March 14, 2019 Report Share Posted March 14, 2019 I would be surprised if Roger and Len did not seek an appeal. Dog racing on a Monday morning shortens the preparation time for the track and fence erection. There are three appeal routes available and no doubt they will require a period of time in which to reflect upon the Planning refusal and how best to appeal the decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted March 14, 2019 Report Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Rebel1 said: I would be surprised if Roger and Len did not seek an appeal. Dog racing on a Monday morning shortens the preparation time for the track and fence erection. There are three appeal routes available and no doubt they will require a period of time in which to reflect upon the Planning refusal and how best to appeal the decision. Thanks Rebel1. Sounds as if you know a bit about Town Planning ! Maybe they should ask you to take up the challenge ! I had not given any thought to the Dogs on Mondays and did not even realise that they ran in the morning. Can't get many to watch it I would have thought, but then, I'm not a gambling man so I don't know what their habits are. But as you hint, it makes it even more attractive to run on Saturdays with Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted March 14, 2019 Report Share Posted March 14, 2019 I'd agree. My view is that there is considerable merit in pursuing an appeal, and I think the chances of success are good. These things are never guaranteed but I think a well argued case ought to persuade the Planning Inspectorate that Swale council has misdirected itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 16 hours ago, East End Fan said: Thanks Rebel1. Sounds as if you know a bit about Town Planning ! Maybe they should ask you to take up the challenge ! I had not given any thought to the Dogs on Mondays and did not even realise that they ran in the morning. Can't get many to watch it I would have thought, but then, I'm not a gambling man so I don't know what their habits are. But as you hint, it makes it even more attractive to run on Saturdays with Speedway. Yep Kent have followed the trend in Greyhounds of being broadcast direct into Bookmakers and therefore have to run on strange days / times of day. Its another sport where the viewing habits are changing constantly but the interest is still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 15 blinking quid to get in at Kent this year! Fair play to those who can sustain the constant rises but personally i will be attending very few meetings at that rate. More likely spending my money at Eastbourne at the next level up for just a quid more. Poor reasoning too, riders costs have gone up because they have allowed them to, its not the fans fault that riders choose to have new race suits, bikes, engines every season but they are the ones being hit in the pocket. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: 15 blinking quid to get in at Kent this year! Fair play to those who can sustain the constant rises but personally i will be attending very few meetings at that rate. More likely spending my money at Eastbourne at the next level up for just a quid more. Poor reasoning too, riders costs have gone up because they have allowed them to, its not the fans fault that riders choose to have new race suits, bikes, engines every season but they are the ones being hit in the pocket. It's only a pound more at some Championship clubs. Len has truly lost his marbles. The sport is heading one way, into oblivion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, cityrebel said: It's only a pound more at some Championship clubs. Len has truly lost his marbles. The sport is heading one way, into oblivion. £2 more than any other team in the league and £5 more than Belle Vue is alarming. Im impressed with the calibre of team that Kent have built this year but if its not being built with budget what hope does the sport have of surviving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Sings4Speedway said: £2 more than any other team in the league and £5 more than Belle Vue £10 to watch NDL racing on one of the top three tracks in the world, in the comfort of a modern stadium... £15 to watch NDL racing on a slightly below average track, in a reasonably decent stadium... Some fans are getting a better deal than others 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, WalterPlinge said: £10 to watch NDL racing on one of the top three tracks in the world, in the comfort of a modern stadium... £15 to watch NDL racing on a slightly below average track, in a reasonably decent stadium... Some fans are getting a better deal than others Especially when you consider that on occasions exactly the same sets of riders will be on show. In these times where equality is everything the gaps seem to be getting further apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Especially when you consider that on occasions exactly the same sets of riders will be on show. In these times where equality is everything the gaps seem to be getting further apart. Is Len going to guarantee we get to watch 15 heats every week for our 15 quid, somehow i don't think so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Especially when you consider that on occasions exactly the same sets of riders will be on show. In these times where equality is everything the gaps seem to be getting further apart. £15 is too much for NL. OK for the top League. As you said,I think I will make trips to Eastbourne for a better quality product. Not surprised with rise at Kent with Len in charge Edited March 22, 2019 by blueherb777 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 The sad fact is that barring Cradley & Leicester i can't see any sides getting near Kent at Central Park so unlikely to pay out for one sided hammerings. Depending on the Eastbourne select side and how well the Plymouth side do in the early 4TT that might tempt me along but otherwise looking through the fixtures there isn't anything else that appeals to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Especially when you consider that on occasions exactly the same sets of riders will be on show. In these times where equality is everything the gaps seem to be getting further apart. Not fair to compare Belle Vue with any other club in the League as their agenda is totally different and can subsidise their 2nd team. While I am all in favour of cheap prices, the extra £1 will not break my bank. I hear about moans from clubs everywhere that they are losing money, or struggling to break even. Inflation of all kinds hits us all. It's a fact of life these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, East End Fan said: Not fair to compare Belle Vue with any other club in the League as their agenda is totally different and can subsidise their 2nd team. While I am all in favour of cheap prices, the extra £1 will not break my bank. I hear about moans from clubs everywhere that they are losing money, or struggling to break even. Inflation of all kinds hits us all. It's a fact of life these days. Whilst i accept that many clubs are struggling financially Kent have turned a profit every year and are able to top up rider packages with sponsored extras. Uncle Len using examples like Kemps kevlars cost him double what they did last year so need increases etc is baloney. They cost double because he went somewhere more expensive/took up the optional extras. If Kent/Len want to throw funding behind riders to help them progress quicker then fine but don't force the additional costs on to the paying public. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Whilst i accept that many clubs are struggling financially Kent have turned a profit every year and are able to top up rider packages with sponsored extras. Uncle Len using examples like Kemps kevlars cost him double what they did last year so need increases etc is baloney. They cost double because he went somewhere more expensive/took up the optional extras. If Kent/Len want to throw funding behind riders to help them progress quicker then fine but don't force the additional costs on to the paying public. strange idea that any money that Speedway costs should come from some other source than our admissions. I know that some may come from sponsorship, but going back for as long as I have been watching Speedway, all the costs have been covered by admission money by and large. If riders are helped to improve, they score more points and help win matches. Isn't that what we want as fans ? Don't know what Kemp's kevlars have to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 Strange move from Len, who normally gets things right!. Could argue comparison with Belle Vue (who have 2 Teams one in PL) is a bit unfair, but Kent still easily most expensive in NL. What also confuses me is that in terms of "rival" he only has one geographically at Eastbourne and potential for them or Kent to attract support from Lakeside / Rye House and the London area, you'd think would be prime consideration. Len in NL raises prices to £15 and has no OAP concessions. Eastbourne move up to CL; have new management who tell everyone that they have a carefully designed plan; and who then go £16 which is equal lowest in CL from what I can see for Adults; and looks very good value; also bring in new concessions for OAP's at £14 (according to their website they had no OAP concessions in NL?????); - which means that they charge a £1 less for higher league for any OAP to go and watch in the South East of England. Quite what Drew's kevlars has to do with it, who knows?, other than Drew should find someone else to make his kevlars who is not ripping him off, and Len should not rip fans off with such a tame excuse. Hopefully for Drew they won't get ripped in his first meeting or Len might be raising prices again! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 Len used to charge top dollar at the Wick when Hackney had a poor team, so it's nothing new. These days you need to hang on to your fan base, not drive them away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, cityrebel said: Len used to charge top dollar at the Wick when Hackney had a poor team, so it's nothing new. These days you need to hang on to your fan base, not drive them away. Sums it up nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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