teaboy279 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Tbf until we meet the criteria set out it's only an application so could be seen as assumptious by the planning dept if they start publicising too much? I also know Derek has recently moved house, so time for releases is probably limited at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 10/29/2019 at 11:05 AM, Skidder1 said: Depends if there is an NDL next season? There was an pre AGM last Monday, and the discussions then were based around 3 leagues again next year. Of course all needs ratifying at the actuall agm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 27 minutes ago, teaboy279 said: There was an pre AGM last Monday, and the discussions then were based around 3 leagues again next year. Of course all needs ratifying at the actuall agm. Pre AGM for PL/CL was end of September No Pre AGM for NDL yet held. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 51 minutes ago, HGould said: Pre AGM for PL/CL was end of September No Pre AGM for NDL yet I dont think the NL have a pre AGM, they wait to see what crap has rolled down hill from the the big boy AGM and then make plans after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 4 hours ago, teaboy279 said: I dont think the NL have a pre AGM, they wait to see what crap has rolled down hill from the the big boy AGM and then make plans after that. The NL AGM might be sooner than you think this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 10/31/2019 at 12:35 PM, Islander15 said: The NL AGM might be sooner than you think this year. I've been out of touch for medical reasons for 3 weeks ( OK now) so I have not been keeping up to date. What is the latest news about Kent running a National League side ? I know most people are very happy that Kent have moved up, but I enjoy the new young riders, making their mistakes and learning. It is fascinating. So I hope that there will be some NL stuff to enjoy in 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 hours ago, East End Fan said: I've been out of touch for medical reasons for 3 weeks ( OK now) so I have not been keeping up to date. What is the latest news about Kent running a National League side ? I know most people are very happy that Kent have moved up, but I enjoy the new young riders, making their mistakes and learning. It is fascinating. So I hope that there will be some NL stuff to enjoy in 2020 If there is a NL then Kent will be in it, UNLESS they bring in any silly rules. With 6 away fixtures between Poole, Somerset and Brum on weds that opens almost enough free dates for the NL fixtures. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted November 23, 2019 Report Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 12:31 AM, teaboy279 said: If there is a NL then Kent will be in it, UNLESS they bring in any silly rules. With 6 away fixtures between Poole, Somerset and Brum on weds that opens almost enough free dates for the NL fixtures. Will 6 home fixtures be enough to run in the N.L. ? Doesn't seem like many to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted November 23, 2019 Report Share Posted November 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, East End Fan said: Will 6 home fixtures be enough to run in the N.L. ? Doesn't seem like many to me I believe that Iwade can be used if dates run out at CP. But barring in mind we have always run weekly, to have the "senior" team having at least 6 weds away fixtures leaves a nice gap for the NL fixtures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 11/23/2019 at 5:59 PM, teaboy279 said: I believe that Iwade can be used if dates run out at CP. But barring in mind we have always run weekly, to have the "senior" team having at least 6 weds away fixtures leaves a nice gap for the NL fixtures. Well, how many teams are likely to be in the NL ? And..how many fixtures for the Championship and any other minor competitions ? And when will all this news be made public ? Lots of doubt this year compared to the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 Think all will become clearer Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) On 11/24/2019 at 9:14 PM, East End Fan said: Well, how many teams are likely to be in the NL ? And..how many fixtures for the Championship and any other minor competitions ? And when will all this news be made public ? Lots of doubt this year compared to the past. Until the AGM has sorted out exactly which teams have entered the NDL and then the format of the league no one knows what is happening. The AGM is on Tuesday (I am led to believe) and then I look forward to seeing good news about the NDL. UPDATE:- Statement from the BSPA NATIONAL Development League clubs attended their AGM at Rugby on Tuesday.The meeting was adjourned until December 16 when clubs should be in a position to finalise their declaration of intent to participate or otherwise.The format of the competition can then also be finalised.We thank everyone for their patience and understanding.British Speedway Promoters' Association. Edited November 26, 2019 by Chris116 More information. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/25/2019 at 10:16 AM, Chris116 said: Until the AGM has sorted out exactly which teams have entered the NDL and then the format of the league no one knows what is happening. The AGM is on Tuesday (I am led to believe) and then I look forward to seeing good news about the NDL. UPDATE:- Statement from the BSPA NATIONAL Development League clubs attended their AGM at Rugby on Tuesday.The meeting was adjourned until December 16 when clubs should be in a position to finalise their declaration of intent to participate or otherwise.The format of the competition can then also be finalised.We thank everyone for their patience and understanding.British Speedway Promoters' Association. Well, that does not tell us very much ! Rather typical of the BSPA to keep everyone in the dark. Does anyone know why the meeting was adjourned ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJ81 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 The Cradley statement says that "The aim is to ultimately return the third tier to a junior development league" - could it be that with that in mind teams need time to assess whether they can take part? Depending on how it will look I'm sure admission costs would need to adjust accordingly which may not suit standalone clubs with fixed costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 The stand alone clubs are in a no win situation. If the third tier is run along MDL lines, then you are probably looking at around £7 admissions tops. Nowhere near enough to cover their overheads, especially as their crowd levels are likely to drop. It's a fine balance between using young riders learning their trade and the oldies who are treading water, with very little chance of moving up. I don't envy the decision makers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 39 minutes ago, cityrebel said: The stand alone clubs are in a no win situation. If the third tier is run along MDL lines, then you are probably looking at around £7 admissions tops. Nowhere near enough to cover their overheads, especially as their crowd levels are likely to drop. It's a fine balance between using young riders learning their trade and the oldies who are treading water, with very little chance of moving up. I don't envy the decision makers. I always advocated that over the last few seasons when the likes of Eastie, Kent and Birmingham were in the NL it was a perfect training ground for the likes of Brennan, Kemp, Flint and many others but there were some who said it wasn't a "development " league and costs too high, if it goes down the route it appears to be going it'll disappear and harm the prospects of future riders of the like. Hope I'm wrong! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 The NDL has been a good training ground because it had a mix of young riders learning their trade helped by the old hands who knew they would probably never move into the higher leagues but enjoyed racing and passing on their knowledge to the youngsters. Maybe there needs to be a limit on over 25 or 30 year olds in the league but they are an important part of the development of the young riders. The older riders also improve the standard of racing and help the stand alone clubs provide a spectacule that is worth watching on a regular basis. Making the NDL into a juniors only league would see it vanish faster than a GP rider after he is told how much he can earn in the Premiership. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 20 hours ago, Chris116 said: The NDL has been a good training ground because it had a mix of young riders learning their trade helped by the old hands who knew they would probably never move into the higher leagues but enjoyed racing and passing on their knowledge to the youngsters. Maybe there needs to be a limit on over 25 or 30 year olds in the league but they are an important part of the development of the young riders. The older riders also improve the standard of racing and help the stand alone clubs provide a spectacule that is worth watching on a regular basis. Making the NDL into a juniors only league would see it vanish faster than a GP rider after he is told how much he can earn in the Premiership. Is there a plan to make the NL into a juniors only league ? Worst idea I've ever heard. Who came up with that stroke of genius ? I hope that someone on this thread has the wrong information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted November 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 56 minutes ago, East End Fan said: Is there a plan to make the NL into a juniors only league ? Worst idea I've ever heard. Who came up with that stroke of genius ? I hope that someone on this thread has the wrong information. It is only based upon comments made by CVS. That said because the public have been left in the dark again it is largely speculation. Thrown in that many of the higher league snobs look down badly on the NL and development leagues, see one poor rider and tar every other rider with the same brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 The national league has hardly enough fans now..It would be crazy to reduce the standard......Youngsters can learn from the older riders in the teams,,and it is so important,there is this level to bring them on,to the point they can progress to the higher levels 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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