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6 hours ago, The Dog said:

All down to the averages I'm afraid, to get a better calibre of rider in sometimes means you have to lower the points average elsewhere. I agree its rubbish that Hume and Stoneman have lost out recently but, hopefully, the better riders should make up the points for them.

I actually hate the low team average more than our beloved guest system tbh, never any reason for it to be below 45-46 points.

The points limit should never be that high. It should be 42.00 - 42.50 but at the start of the year, not with the inflated averages we now have.

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11 hours ago, Islander15 said:

Wallinger?! Unlucky on Hume to lose his place but to lose it to someone as unreliable as Wallinger and Agertoft stays in the team who’s scoring worse than Thomsen must be a bitter pill to swallow. 

Wallinger is very reliable in the Championship as its where his inflated ego thinks he belongs and you can also rely on him getting naff all week in week out. Nice work Brum (Rogers) ditching two rising Brits and replacing with two journeymen. 

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39 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Wallinger is very reliable in the Championship as its where his inflated ego thinks he belongs and you can also rely on him getting naff all week in week out. Nice work Brum (Rogers) ditching two rising Brits and replacing with two journeymen. 

Were you disappointed with  Danyon Sings ?? i really think a lack of meetings cost him lack of race fitness.He should of won heat 2 at Somerset and Redcar so in a way he was so unlucky.Again he scored heavily last night and is getting there with Leicester i just hope he gets another chance.The worry for me is that riders like Danyon will be shafted some years because of there averages.Bickley/ Rowe/ are two prime examples that could be vulnerable next year, riders who have an average between 3.80/ 5.00.

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38 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Wallinger is very reliable in the Championship as its where his inflated ego thinks he belongs and you can also rely on him getting naff all week in week out. Nice work Brum (Rogers) ditching two rising Brits and replacing with two journeymen. 

Morris has been injured for almost 2 months and does not know when he is likely to return . If fit we would not of replaced him.Also there is a few months difference in age between morris and Garrity . 

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7 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said:

Were you disappointed with  Danyon Sings ?? i really think a lack of meetings cost him lack of race fitness.He should of won heat 2 at Somerset and Redcar so in a way he was so unlucky.Again he scored heavily last night and is getting there with Leicester i just hope he gets another chance.The worry for me is that riders like Danyon will be shafted some years because of there averages.Bickley/ Rowe/ are two prime examples that could be vulnerable next year, riders who have an average between 3.80/ 5.00.

Im not sure i could ever be disappointed with Danyon he is just an infectiously likeable person. He has also suffered from the numbers game whereas i think he would have improved as the season progressed. Yes he has a knack of being in th wrong place at the wrong time which means he has had a few injuries but a clean run will see him establish himself at another club with any luck.

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Danyon is a 'fans' favourite, a real people's person.....he has bags and bags of potential....I don't think a reserve berth in the Championship suits his 'concentration' level, if that makes sense?

What I mean is....he needs to have more rides, with less gaps, for him to progress/get the best out of him?

Because of his 'all-out' riding style....he makes a few errors, ends up falling off, which in turn scuppers/shortens his race-night.....

He might be a rider that succumbs to the 'what could've been' pile?

I sincerely hope not, as I love the guy on/off the track!

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34 minutes ago, GiveusaB said:

Danyon is a 'fans' favourite, a real people's person.....he has bags and bags of potential....I don't think a reserve berth in the Championship suits his 'concentration' level, if that makes sense?

What I mean is....he needs to have more rides, with less gaps, for him to progress/get the best out of him?

Because of his 'all-out' riding style....he makes a few errors, ends up falling off, which in turn scuppers/shortens his race-night.....

He might be a rider that succumbs to the 'what could've been' pile?

I sincerely hope not, as I love the guy on/off the track!

I believe in the bloke and as you said what a nice bloke he is hope he gets the breaks he deserves.All Danyon can do is keep working hard and thing's will come good.I think he has had 7 league and cup matches in the N.L and he has had 10 plus points in six of them i think as the season goes by he will get even stronger.I so admire Workington from last year what a job they did with Bickley and how he has reaped the benefits from that this season.Because Danyon had a reasonable average with Ipswich last  year he has ended up being  punished because of it .

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6 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Wallinger is very reliable in the Championship as its where his inflated ego thinks he belongs and you can also rely on him getting naff all week in week out. Nice work Brum (Rogers) ditching two rising Brits and replacing with two journeymen. 

Not sure there's many other options out there tho Sings. And its a bit harsh to say that Brum have ditched Morris when he is injured with no real idea of his return either. 

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7 hours ago, Sidney the robin said:

Were you disappointed with  Danyon Sings ?? i really think a lack of meetings cost him lack of race fitness.He should of won heat 2 at Somerset and Redcar so in a way he was so unlucky.Again he scored heavily last night and is getting there with Leicester i just hope he gets another chance.The worry for me is that riders like Danyon will be shafted some years because of there averages.Bickley/ Rowe/ are two prime examples that could be vulnerable next year, riders who have an average between 3.80/ 5.00.

Bickley nailed on to being @ Glasgow in 2020 . unless of course they lose shed loads of money and have to ply their trade in a lower league .

 

going from memory i think most of the cl riders are around 4/5 ish . not too sure tho .

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29 minutes ago, jenga said:

Bickley nailed on to being @ Glasgow in 2020 . unless of course they lose shed loads of money and have to ply their trade in a lower league .

 

going from memory i think most of the cl riders are around 4/5 ish . not too sure tho .

I hope the lad stays and gets a long prolonged run Jenga,  because he has made huge strides.My point about the vulnerability of young riders who have a certain average is that  teams that often have strong top fives often have a vulnerable rider in the 1-5 or one who is expected to be the senior reserve.

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1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said:

I hope the lad stays and gets a long prolonged run Jenga,  because he has made huge strides.My point about the vulnerability of young riders who have a certain average is that  teams that often have strong top fives often have a vulnerable rider in the 1-5 or one who is expected to be the senior reserve.

Simple solution increase the team building average to there rightful level of 42.5, it will go a long way in protecting these young riders.

The current stupid level is doing these young riders no favours whatsoever.

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2 hours ago, Gazc said:

Simple solution increase the team building average to there rightful level of 42.5, it will go a long way in protecting these young riders.

The current stupid level is doing these young riders no favours whatsoever.

Drew Kemp is a prime example of what you are talking about  Gazc , he has dug in really well in the top five .When really he should of been a second reserve all year learning his trade i was chuffed with his U21 WTC performance at Belle Vue.

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11 hours ago, Sidney the robin said:

Drew Kemp is a prime example of what you are talking about  Gazc , he has dug in really well in the top five .When really he should of been a second reserve all year learning his trade i was chuffed with his U21 WTC performance at Belle Vue.

Whilst that is very true Kemp will probably benefit from it in the long run. There is a balance from allowing riders to develop in time verses giving riders too easy a time at reserve and taking away the grit and determination required to make it. 

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23 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Whilst that is very true Kemp will probably benefit from it in the long run. There is a balance from allowing riders to develop in time verses giving riders too easy a time at reserve and taking away the grit and determination required to make it. 

Totally agree but not  all will be as good as Drew and. some will have there confidence  shot to pieces after a while.Also at NL level an example young Wirtzfeld at the IOW already in the top five and Wildman at reserve that is not right changes need to be made.

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2 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said:

Totally agree but not  all will be as good as Drew and. some will have there confidence  shot to pieces after a while.Also at NL level an example young Wirtzfeld at the IOW already in the top five and Wildman at reserve that is not right changes need to be made.

Can't argue with that. No way that Widman should be blocking up a reserve berth in the NL. Riders like him and the other non improvers are a big problem with that league. Not sure of the answer maybe increase a riders minimum average in line with number of seasons completed in that league?

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