Sings4Speedway Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, HGould said: when the majority of riders in PL and CL are average age high 20's and low 30's if 22 is not considered young not sure what is? being pedantic on myself would concede the "very" but the lad missed CL / NL came straight in to PL and only experienced NL / CL after that. Came to speedway after Grass and I would rate as highly as the best of the 2017 - 18 "wizz kids" Kemp and Brennan; and on a par with Zach Waj - still young too. Hate to be "that person" who corrects you but Shanes did plenty of Speedway prior to signing for PL Poole. Starting out in the MDL before limited appearances at Plymouth & Coventry where he didn't pull up a lot of trees to be fair. Even when he signed for Kent he would score well but couldn't gate for toffee. His attacking style suits some CL tracks and thats where he started to gather interest before joining the Pirates. Not going to debate his ability/potential too much but fear his Grass style will continue to hold him back a bit on many more technical tracks and despite very strong sponsorship is still behind with the financial clout that Brennan & Zac Waj have. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Hate to be "that person" who corrects you but Shanes did plenty of Speedway prior to signing for PL Poole. Starting out in the MDL before limited appearances at Plymouth & Coventry where he didn't pull up a lot of trees to be fair. Even when he signed for Kent he would score well but couldn't gate for toffee. His attacking style suits some CL tracks and thats where he started to gather interest before joining the Pirates. Not going to debate his ability/potential too much but fear his Grass style will continue to hold him back a bit on many more technical tracks and despite very strong sponsorship is still behind with the financial clout that Brennan & Zac Waj have. He did ride Eastbourne pretty well and beat Adam Ellis fair and square once as I recall so not too bad on a technical track, but doesn't have the consistency that Brennen and Kemp seem to have even now and by the time they're 20 think they will have moved to a different level again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 14 hours ago, Dandelion said: I take it you're not an Ulrich Ostergaard fan then... You don't know what the circumstances are... Anything could have happened No great opinion on him other then when i have watched him recently and he has been awful . My point is that anything could not of happened the silencer is fixed at 3 different points all 3 must of failed at exactly the same time for it to fall off ? You cannot defend such poor preparation either by himself or his mechanics its inexcusable if it had fell of mid race anything could of happened depending on track position . I think SINGS is right though .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) I think most 'B'ham' supporters will agree that Ostergaard isn't a No.1 rider... but all we can do is back him and the team to do their best!? I seem to recall a post/s on the Peterborough thread, that Ulrich's machinery can at times, resemble a 'lawnmower' ? Being a No.1 rider carries a lot of weight/responsibility...it's going to be a tough season for him, hopefully the fans will be realistic and not expect too much. P.s S4S's comments/observations about James's 'Grasstrack' style is 'spot-on' imo.... Edited March 20, 2019 by GiveusaB 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/20/2019 at 9:08 AM, GiveusaB said: I think most 'B'ham' supporters will agree that Ostergaard isn't a No.1 rider... but all we can do is back him and the team to do their best!? I seem to recall a post/s on the Peterborough thread, that Ulrich's machinery can at times, resemble a 'lawnmower' ? Being a No.1 rider carries a lot of weight/responsibility...it's going to be a tough season for him, hopefully the fans will be realistic and not expect too much. P.s S4S's comments/observations about James's 'Grasstrack' style is 'spot-on' imo.... Yes we will get behind him but respecting each other is a two way thing . Rightly or wrongly i expect his machinery to but up to scratch as a minimum . To be fair i do not think that David Mason would tolerate such poor machinery and preparation to often. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 8:20 AM, Sings4Speedway said: Yes anything could have happened if it had held on until racing was under way. All riders have a responsibility to ensure their equipment is up to standard and then there are officials who verify the state of the bike too (although it could have been amended after being checked). The likelihood is that an engine has been fitted last minute and everything not done properly. Must admit I'm not a great fan of Ulrich but I don't seem to recall him having bad machines whilst riding for Redcar. Maybe a one off but it needs to be watched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Bear Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Must admit I'm not a great fan of Ulrich but I don't seem to recall him having bad machines whilst riding for Redcar. Maybe a one off but it needs to be watched. He was inconsistent for us , brilliant against us for Peterborough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 when he rode for workington he was fantastic . prob one of his best seasons . but time waits for no one . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 New season new start clean slate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 Blimey, people are already being critical and we haven't even got to press and practice day yet! Ulrichs been around for a long time and will be a steady rider for us, maybe not a Harris or Cook but if he gets an average of 8ish, I think we'd be happy. Lets enjoy our new journey under the Masons and see where we are after 10 or 12 meetings. We won't win the league but we won't go bankrupt either and hopefully, be able to enjoy many more years at PB.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Dog said: Blimey, people are already being critical and we haven't even got to press and practice day yet! Ulrichs been around for a long time and will be a steady rider for us, maybe not a Harris or Cook but if he gets an average of 8ish, I think we'd be happy. Lets enjoy our new journey under the Masons and see where we are after 10 or 12 meetings. We won't win the league but we won't go bankrupt either and hopefully, be able to enjoy many more years at PB.... Absolutely right "The Dog" going back over the decades, the 2nd Tier has often been won by a tight Team - as Workington proved last year, they had 6 blokes average in a range between around 6 and 7.5 and did brilliantly, they even carried a 1 point reserve for most of the year, and if you go right back look at a side like Long Eaton in the early 80's. I think its clear that Somerset ; Leicester ' Glasgow have the top end strength but have compromised a bit with reserves; as Gary May admits himself, and the others have all got a solid look. If we win more than we lose at home and a few away wins, decent crowds and break even / make a bit, its a step back up to where we want to be and in the mason we trust! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 7 hours ago, The Dog said: Blimey, people are already being critical and we haven't even got to press and practice day yet! Ulrichs been around for a long time and will be a steady rider for us, maybe not a Harris or Cook but if he gets an average of 8ish, I think we'd be happy. Lets enjoy our new journey under the Masons and see where we are after 10 or 12 meetings. We won't win the league but we won't go bankrupt either and hopefully, be able to enjoy many more years at PB.... I would be delighted if he averaged 8ish but he wont if he finishes above 7.00 i would be amazed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 12 hours ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: I would be delighted if he averaged 8ish but he wont if he finishes above 7.00 i would be amazed If he remains in the number 1 jacket all season i will be staggered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: If he remains in the number 1 jacket all season i will be staggered looking at the brummies team . i honestly (theres that word again ) cant see any rider that will trouble oystercard and take his number 1 spot away from him . they look less than average in 2019 . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, jenga said: looking at the brummies team . i honestly (theres that word again ) cant see any rider that will trouble oystercard and take his number 1 spot away from him . they look less than average in 2019 . Im not so sure. I think any of them barring Paco could hit 6.5 this season if they have a run in the right position and i reckon that will be enough to take the jacket. Didn't ash Morris almost end up at number 1 for Newcastle last year? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Ulrich could quite easily be out the no1 race jacket after the first set of new averages. I think morris or Newman could easily over take him in the averages then after a couple more months it would not surprise me to see shanes and Zach overtake him then .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: Ulrich could quite easily be out the no1 race jacket after the first set of new averages. I think morris or Newman could easily over take him in the averages then after a couple more months it would not surprise me to see shanes and Zach overtake him then .. God help you if you end up with Newman or Morris at 1. I can see Birmingham being one of the teams making a change pretty early on. Edited March 25, 2019 by spin king junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, spin king junior said: God help you if you end up with Newman or Morris at 1. I can see Birmingham being one of the teams making a change pretty early on. I've thought all along we'd sign Bradley Wilson-Dean but always thought Eastbourne would be his preferred home and he was waiting for something to happen there, even if after 30 June when points limit goes up to 40 (confirmed Speedway Star last week). Eastbourne signing Daniel Spiller though makes me think he is being lined up for after 30th June, he was better than BW-D in National League year but hard to know how he has progressed since. I now think we might have BW-D after 1st averages as also confirmed Shield and KOC count in Green Sheets (also in SStar) Edited March 25, 2019 by HGould missed last para pressed enter by mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 35 minutes ago, HGould said: I've thought all along we'd sign Bradley Wilson-Dean but always thought Eastbourne would be his preferred home and he was waiting for something to happen there, even if after 30 June when points limit goes up to 40 (confirmed Speedway Star last week). Eastbourne signing Daniel Spiller though makes me think he is being lined up for after 30th June, he was better than BW-D in National League year but hard to know how he has progressed since. I now think we might have BW-D after 1st averages as also confirmed Shield and KOC count in Green Sheets (also in SStar) The splillers have only signed as assets not in there 1-7 and are way behind BWD just as Danny was back in the National league. BWD and Adam Ellis were head and shoulders above anyone that season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 A good and well attended practice session yesterday .... Roll on next Wednesday for some 'real' action! I thought 'Paco' was really pushing it and he looked very smooth ! There was a 'young' Dane on show(Nick ?)....17 years old and he didn't look out of place amongst the more experienced guys! Josh Mcdonald was there practising and it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't get a team spot somewhere before the season's out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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