Woz01 Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, uk_martin said: Nico Covatti Possibly Ben Barker too, although I can't fully remember how that dispute with Mick Horton over Barker ended up. Ended up paying a loan fee I believe. Edited December 17, 2018 by Woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenMiller Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Birmingham still not listed as a Championship club for 2019 on the official website ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_art Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Neither is Eastbourne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Osirian08 said: Birmingham still not listed as a Championship club for 2019 on the official website ? 30 minutes ago, guitar_art said: Neither is Eastbourne IF they did that, their web site wouldn't be able to withstand the volume of traffic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 18 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Some of those 2 pointers will be like Bickley this year wont even average much more over two points. saying that the league does seem easier in 2019.Will Ruddick, Chessell,Bailey, Lawlor,Kinsley,( ect) average 3.79? i hope i am wrong and i am glad these young Brits are getting a chance i hope some push on. They don’t have to average 3.79, they just have to improve as well or better than Hume would by putting more on their average. If, for example Hume and a two pointer both have scope to put 0.5 on their starting figure then the obvious choice is the two pointer to leave more team building points further up the order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ben91 said: They don’t have to average 3.79, they just have to improve as well or better than Hume would by putting more on their average. If, for example Hume and a two pointer both have scope to put 0.5 on their starting figure then the obvious choice is the two pointer to leave more team building points further up the order. Not when it is Castagna Ben!!! who has failed badly in the past.The English guy should always get the nod by doing ok in the champs his converted average 3.79 that has gone against him.He averaged well over 5 at home and was only really behind Bacon, Kemp, in the Champs averages.Look at Glasgow's reserves they will be lucky to score 3/5 points a meeting between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Not when it is Castagna Ben!!! who has failed badly in the past.The English guy should always get the nod by doing ok in the champs his converted average 3.79 that has gone against him.He averaged well over 5 at home and was only really behind Bacon, Kemp, in the Champs averages.Look at Glasgow's reserves they will be lucky to score 3/5 points a meeting between them. And Hume has a potentially unappealing history with injuries. I’m sure there’s a reason Birmingham have gone with Castagna over Hume. Ideally we’d see the British lads fixed up first but it’s a sport, we can’t be telling teams who they can and can’t sign based on nationality, unless it’s a rule enforced across the board. There are riders who get frozen out because of the numbers game and yes it’s sad but that’s the nature of the beast. Edited December 18, 2018 by Ben91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Ben91 said: And Hume has a potentially unappealing history with injuries. I’m sure there’s a reason Birmingham have gone with Castagna over Hume. Ideally we’d see the British lads fixed up first but it’s a sport, we can’t be telling teams who they can and can’t sign based on nationality, unless it’s a rule enforced across the board. There are riders who get frozen out because of the numbers game and yes it’s sad but that’s the nature of the beast. Of course injuries have gone against him but if he can regroup he will be fine and he will show he is a Championship rider. Castagna there is certainly another reason he is in above Hume and it is not because of having more ability. Edited December 18, 2018 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Not when it is Castagna Ben!!! who has failed badly in the past.... Some of us remember Charles Wright wobbling around Workington and trailing half a mile behind the others in 2007/8, thinking "would he be in the team if his brother, James (a former Birmingham asset) wasn't there too"? And look at him now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, uk_martin said: Some of us remember Charles Wright wobbling around Workington and trailing half a mile behind the others in 2007/8, thinking "would he be in the team if his brother, James (a former Birmingham asset) wasn't there too"? And look at him now. I can remember Sam Ermolenko in his hair raising days who was nearly wiping everyone out and he went on to be World Champion.You predict what you think Castagna can average in 2019.??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: I can remember Sam Ermolenko in his hair raising days who was nearly wiping everyone out and he went on to be World Champion.You predict what you think Castagna can average in 2019.??? When exactly was this Sidney? I can only assume 84 as that was his debut season (aside from 4 meets in 83) and he averaged 6.71 in the top flight.. before being in a run off for World Title the following season? I'm sure there are better examples.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Just now, BWitcher said: When exactly was this Sidney? I can only assume 84 as that was his debut season (aside from 4 meets in 83) and he averaged 6.71 in the top flight.. before being in a run off for World Title the following season? I'm sure there are better examples.. Ask Michael Lee in 1983 end of October dangerous is not the word.My point was i never see him ever being a World Champion but fair play went on and had a great career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 So, with 5.54 to play with,,are there any 'Championship' experts out there who can guess who our final acquisition might be ? Having been stuck in the NL for so long, I've lost touch with the 'Championship' talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: So, with 5.54 to play with,,are there any 'Championship' experts out there who can guess who our final acquisition might be ? Having been stuck in the NL for so long, I've lost touch with the 'Championship' talent? The problem with the final signing is there is a huge difference between should be, could be and most likely will be. To maximise the points usage Theo Pijper, to maximise crowd support James Shanes but i suspect asset base building will continue being the driving force so Michael Hartel, Jonas Jeppesen or similar new assessed rider will take the final place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 23 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: So, with 5.54 to play with,,are there any 'Championship' experts out there who can guess who our final acquisition might be ? Having been stuck in the NL for so long, I've lost touch with the 'Championship' talent? End of last seasons averages are here: http://www.speedwaygb.co.uk/files/downloads/c18_issue_25.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: ...but i suspect asset base building will continue being the driving force so Michael Hartel,... I asked about Michael Hartel a few days ago and was told that he's already an Ipswich asset. Who knows though, they might kindly donate him eh? Would like to see him at Perry Barr though. Every time I've seen him at Gustrow and Teterow, he's been very impressive, and definately the pick of the crop of current German youngsters. He was showing a clean pair of heals to Jack Smith and Adam Ellis there over the last 2 years, so the talent is there, it'll just be a matter of learning about new tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, uk_martin said: I asked about Michael Hartel a few days ago and was told that he's already an Ipswich asset. Who knows though, they might kindly donate him eh? Would like to see him at Perry Barr though. Every time I've seen him at Gustrow and Teterow, he's been very impressive, and definately the pick of the crop of current German youngsters. He was showing a clean pair of heals to Jack Smith and Adam Ellis there over the last 2 years, so the talent is there, it'll just be a matter of learning about new tracks. Certainly quick enough, only question marks ive heard are regarding his control as has a bit of a reputation from the Longtrack scene of wiping riders out BUT that is only what ive been told and not seen first hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 40 minutes ago, uk_martin said: I asked about Michael Hartel a few days ago and was told that he's already an Ipswich asset. Who knows though, they might kindly donate him eh? Would like to see him at Perry Barr though. Every time I've seen him at Gustrow and Teterow, he's been very impressive, and definately the pick of the crop of current German youngsters. He was showing a clean pair of heals to Jack Smith and Adam Ellis there over the last 2 years, so the talent is there, it'll just be a matter of learning about new tracks. How did he become an asset without riding enough matches to get an average? Just asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 Great to see Danyon get signed up at Leicester.....albeit in the NL....an injury free season in the NL won't do him any harm at all. Not sure Leicesters track will suit his all-out racing style though (hopefully they'll have sorted that dodgy 3rd/4th bend out?) Good luck to Danyon....he'll be missed at PB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 3 hours ago, DC2 said: How did he become an asset without riding enough matches to get an average? Just asking. Yeah, I asked too. Nobody seems to know, other than Ipswich have his contract...or so I was told. Aparently Ipswich work in mysterious ways their riders to sign. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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