gazzac Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 From the angle of putting together a team in the championship on a budget I suppose with the Lakeside/Cook/Eastbourne collaboration the expected team will be put together with no loan fees? If as I suspect that is probably the case, when you look at the unease on the Birmingham section ref the team for this year, think we can be pretty happy with the team. Think Eddie's average is a bit high, but be good to see him back having seen him in the second halves all those years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Hunters said: All in all a fascinating year ahead, I just hope all those fans who refused to watch NL appreciate what is coming and return to the fold. There is a lot more interest from fans this season than before, I would expect a spike in attendance to begin with and with a good team around Arlington I would think they can build on crowds.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 12 hours ago, M.D said: There is a lot more interest from fans this season than before, I would expect a spike in attendance to begin with and with a good team around Arlington I would think they can build on crowds.. With the loss of Lakeside and Rye, and with Kent treading water in a weakened NL, i would expect the Arlington crowds to go up. There are not a lot of options for fans in the South East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, cityrebel said: With the loss of Lakeside and Rye, and with Kent treading water in a weakened NL, i would expect the Arlington crowds to go up. There are not a lot of options for fans in the South East. I question your optimism city rebel. I do not think there was any significant improvement in Eastbourne crowds when Wimbledon, geographically much nearer to Arlington, closed in 2005. And consider if you were a former Rye House or Lakeside supporter, and lived to the north of these venues, the considerable travelling distance, the cost and time involved in getting to Eastbourne. Edited December 16, 2018 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Its never easy to judge what will put crowds up for speedway. I wouldlike to think that a few Lakeside fans may come down. I base that purely on the fact that I would have considered going to Lakeside had Eastbourne ever shut down and that was based on the fact I would have had to battle the Dartford crossing on a Friday night. The fact that Cookie and some Lakeside riders are involved, it may entice some Lakeside fans, espcially as it is on a Saturday.But who knows? For me, I am not too fussed about the team winning everything this year. Just keep it good at home and have a solid middle table first year in the league will be great from me. Any better and I would be very happy. I just cannot wait to get behind a team full of local and British riders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/13/2018 at 1:36 PM, Speedway197635 said: Lawson, Kennett, Wajtknecht/Morley case closed. Morley then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 Think Eastbourne have got the balance pretty much right with the predicted side and shows the coffers are a little healthier than Brums. Keeping a core from the Nl side to appease the current fan base whilst adding some big hitters who are well know in the sport and have Eastbourne connections is clever. Add in a good race night and i think the home crows will grow (but by enough who knows?). With Kents issues in switching race day providing the opposition looks like it will put up a decent contest i suspect there will be a fair few fans travelling from the neighbouring county , myself included. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 I knew eastie would end up with morley, the worst signing of the perceived 7 by a mile average wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, ruckerroo said: I knew eastie would end up with morley, the worst signing of the perceived 7 by a mile average wise Think thats very harsh and un-true. Morley at home may look high considering his performances will be similar to Wood & Brennan who are available combined for the same average but away he will be far more experienced and is developing on the bigger tracks. Add in that he actually achieved that average in a tougher Championship last year showing he has been there done it. Perceived signing wise Kennett looks the worst signing average wise but i wouldn't say he will be a bad signing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 Still no official notification of the last 3 signings..yet everyone seems to know who they are and could be about right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunters Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 8:08 PM, BLACKHEART said: Lawson, Kennett & Wajtknecht apparently. So much for that. If Zach was wrong so might be some others? Just cannot see Ben Morley at No 4 or we will have problems. He really has not improved much over the last four years and his average was arrived at by being reserve at Lakeside. He scores big at NL but he did the same when we joined in 2015. My one worry had been Eddie Kennett who had a bad year last year but comes in too high with the previous years average. Does not leave any room for improvement. With the pair of them the Eagles suddenly look a bit vulnerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) Ben spent a lot of time at no 2 at Lakeside averaging around 7 points at home swapping back and forth with Zack.. If he is in the team.?.i would expect him to do a similar job at Eastbourne a track he goes very well on Edited December 17, 2018 by waco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hunters said: So much for that. If Zach was wrong so might be some others? Just cannot see Ben Morley at No 4 or we will have problems. He really has not improved much over the last four years and his average was arrived at by being reserve at Lakeside. He scores big at NL but he did the same when we joined in 2015. My one worry had been Eddie Kennett who had a bad year last year but comes in too high with the previous years average. Does not leave any room for improvement. With the pair of them the Eagles suddenly look a bit vulnerable. Don’t be too depressed. Your team is similar to Redcar’s, who everyone is raving about. Maybe your bottom four lack the potential of Stewart and Bacon, but they should be home track specialists who guarantee you a mid-table finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Think thats very harsh and un-true. Morley at home may look high considering his performances will be similar to Wood & Brennan who are available combined for the same average but away he will be far more experienced and is developing on the bigger tracks. Add in that he actually achieved that average in a tougher Championship last year showing he has been there done it. Perceived signing wise Kennett looks the worst signing average wise but i wouldn't say he will be a bad signing. I cant see any value at all having morley , bowtell, wood and brennan in the same side, those nl averages dont lie, they are all pretty similar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 With a long tail you have to make sure one of those 4 are able to race as a number 4 (one of them I’m sure might be able to during the season but not just yet) if you compare them to riders who rode at number 4 last year (I understand the limit is now lower) I don’t think one of the four are a number four - yet. But I think wood or Brennan would be a number Four at home not so sure who would away. Out of the four and no disrespect to Ben as I know he’s your grandson Waco just my honest opinion but he isn’t one of those four. He will finish at reserve and he isn’t going to get any better I feel - if he proves me wrong I’ll eat my hat but he only has that average because of his home love for lakeside a track he’s ridden for many years that other riders struggle to even get round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 Looking at the likely number 4 riders this year & the proposed Eastbourne side Morley is certainly the closest to it in terms of consistent standard and it is ultimately the next step for him in his career as he looks to hold his own outside the reserve / number 2 berths. Lets not forget its not the riders fault that they are being pressed into riding in positions perhaps slightly above their current level (same as Bowtell at 2) its the way the side has been built and with 2 x 9+ riders included there will always be a long tail who perhaps gets a slating they don't deserve. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 It’s a weaker league and needs NL riders to step up otherwise what’s the point. The team you start with is never the team you finish with these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 TurnTwo,.i have a number of old hats I could send you ,,My.old Lakeside cap would be particularly tasty..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 Only if the boy proves me wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunters Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 14 hours ago, waco said: TurnTwo,.i have a number of old hats I could send you ,,My.old Lakeside cap would be particularly tasty..... Sounds like Ben is one of the last three so why don't they say so? Waco should know. We thought it was Zach but no. Maybe it is not Kennett either. Why must we be the last to know.? Otherwise only Newcastle and 1 at Brum are left in doubt as the other nine teams are complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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