E I Addio Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 15 hours ago, Grand Central said: Cook has always been an unpleasant character. So it's never surprising whenever it inevitably surfaces in public. Pity that he is garnering such bad PR for Eastbourne now, though. I don’t agree that Cook has always been an unpleasant character. In many ways he has a lot of good qualities as a promoter. IMO Jon Cooks “ problem” if I can call it that is that he is not a “people person” , and an absolutely hopeless PR man. I do know riders who hold him in high regard as a promoter, but he doesn’t communicate well to the general public. He should be kept in the back office as an organiser, not let out in the spotlight . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Yes, I don't pretend to understand the structure of management operating at Eastbourne. The demarcation between jobs and functions within the promotion seems somewhat 'opaque' to an outsider. So it is difficult to tell who really pulls the strings. One thing for certain is that whatever is written in the official programme, and by whoever. It is the licenced promoters who are solely responsible to the SCB if the content breaks the regulations on bringing any part of the sport into disrepute. That, I assume, would fall at the door of Trevor Geer and Mike Bellarby. I also have no real understanding or inference to make from the news at Companies House that John Cook resigned from the board of Eastbourne Eagles Ltd on May 28 and the company address shifted too. Suffice to say some sort of 'change' has occurred behind the scenes for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, E I Addio said: I don’t agree that Cook has always been an unpleasant character. In many ways he has a lot of good qualities as a promoter. IMO Jon Cooks “ problem” if I can call it that is that he is not a “people person” , and an absolutely hopeless PR man. I do know riders who hold him in high regard as a promoter, but he doesn’t communicate well to the general public. He should be kept in the back office as an organiser, not let out in the spotlight . After not agreeing with me ... You seem to move on to then say exactly why his personality/interactions may have caused people to have found him unpleasant. I find that comforting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 What exactly is Cook's position with Eastbourne? He's not a promoter - Mike Bellerby and Trevor Geer are the promoters. And according to Companies House he resigned as a Director of Eastbourne Eagles Ltd on 28/05/19, and ceased to be a shareholder of the company on the same date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, WalterPlinge said: What exactly is Cook's position with Eastbourne? He's not a promoter - Mike Bellerby and Trevor Geer are the promoters. And according to Companies House he resigned as a Director of Eastbourne Eagles Ltd on 28/05/19, and ceased to be a shareholder of the company on the same date. Eastbourne website has him listed as "Head of Speedway Operations".......he is certainly a head that's for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Grand Central said: After not agreeing with me ... You seem to move on to then say exactly why his personality/interactions may have caused people to have found him unpleasant. I find that comforting. Not quite sure where you are coming from with this. In any form of business there will be some people who don’t like you, for whatever reason. That is a long way from saying someone is an unpleasant character per se. I know some who find Cook frustrating, others who find him distant at times and some who don’t like him because they don’t agree with him, but you could say that about a lot of people. I have expressed the opinion that Cook is no PR man, as as a promoter he would do,a better job if he was. However for someone who is a genuinely unpleasant character, look towards Scunthorpe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 If Jon Cook wrote a similar piece in a football programme then he and his club would be in serious trouble with the FA on a charge of bringing the sport into disrepute. The BSPA or the SCB should take action to ensure such repugnant comments are not allowed to appear in a programme again. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Regarding earlier posts, Morley is another Nick Simmons / Barrie Evans type rider . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Chris116 said: If Jon Cook wrote a similar piece in a football programme then he and his club would be in serious trouble with the FA on a charge of bringing the sport into disrepute. The BSPA or the SCB should take action to ensure such repugnant comments are not allowed to appear in a programme again. as could be said about the BSPA bring the sport into disrepute . could not run a bath of watter between them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 3 hours ago, jenga said: as could be said about the BSPA bring the sport into disrepute . could not run a bath of watter between them ! If they did it would be cold water! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom89 Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 7 hours ago, Pinny said: Regarding earlier posts, Morley is another Nick Simmons / Barrie Evans type rider . More often that not Morley will score his average or above at home, away will be a different matter but most fans are only concerned about a team that wins home meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofers Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 19 hours ago, Chris116 said: The BSPA or the SCB should take action ..........to ensure such repugnant comments are not allowed to appear in a programme again. Ha, ha, ha, we’re still waiting for the outcome of the SCB’s “full investigation” into the calling off of the Eastbourne v Mildenhall National league match last October. The BSPA have difficulty in creating their own limited company. Do you really think either organisation are in a position to police what goes into a programme ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Hasn't taken long for the sugar to come off the acid drop down at Eastbourne...... Jon Cook is no lover of anything but "top divison racing" a point he made many times until suddenly Lakeside dropped down into the National League !!!! when it was suddenly the best thing since sliced bread and all his fellow NL promotoers were great friends ! That was pretty much was the end of Lakeside Speedway. They soldiered on... hood winking the fans with tales of a new stadium for a couple of seasons...... all very unsatisfactory. Very surprised to read that Cook allegedly is no longer a promoter or shareholder at Eastbourne ... I thought all the fuss over the close season was about Cook settling outstanding payments incurred whilst part of Lakeside Speedway and regaining his promoters licence ? I assume he was part of team selection for 2019 ????? He should know the capabilities of Morley and Bowtell very well. Cook loves Bowtell so he wont be going anywhere. Both have been riding a fair few years. I havent seen any improvement at Championship level up until last season. I am sure some clever statistician will tell me otherwise. As for Wood don't know the lad. National league hopeful thrown in at the deep end in the CL 2019 and Cook wants to out him after 2 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunters Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Another great initiative by the Eagles management. All members of the armed forces admitted for the Leicester Match free as their contribution to Armed Forces Day on Saturday. The way they have approached things this season they deserve success so lets lay off the Cook baiting please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 15 hours ago, Hunters said: Another great initiative by the Eagles management. All members of the armed forces admitted for the Leicester Match free as their contribution to Armed Forces Day on Saturday. The way they have approached things this season they deserve success so lets lay off the Cook baiting please. Another tremendous gesture by the Eastbourne promotion, leading the way once again. However Jon Cook is still scum in my view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Another tremendous gesture by the Eastbourne promotion, leading the way once again. However Jon Cook is still scum in my view. Eastbourne Promotion in 2019 has been excellent, Cook is a part of that and he's not my favourite by any means but I get impression the Business and Marketing driving force is Jordan. In fairness to Jon Cook, at the Opening Meeting I attended with Brummies he (and Jordan and Bellerby) were very evident chatting to big Crowd waiting to get in and Cook was walking round chatting to people at the Good Friday match I attended to. I get the feeling he quite likes to play the "bad guy" but sometimes oversteps the mark. I can only say that he does more good than bad but gets bad wrap when he says silly things. Edited June 26, 2019 by HGould spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 7:47 PM, woofers said: Ha, ha, ha, we’re still waiting for the outcome of the SCB’s “full investigation” into the calling off of the Eastbourne v Mildenhall National league match last October. The BSPA have difficulty in creating their own limited company. Do you really think either organisation are in a position to police what goes into a programme ? Yes as each home team has to send in a programme for each meeting. They ARE read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Yes as each home team has to send in a programme for each meeting. They ARE read. Now Done electronically Dave, and the BSPA do not read them, only the press office ( Mr.Perason's boys ) so they can pinch stories for the S/S or Speedway GB website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 28 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Yes as each home team has to send in a programme for each meeting. They ARE read. Agree 13 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Now Done electronically Dave, and the BSPA do not read them, only the press office ( Mr.Perason's boys ) so they can pinch stories for the S/S or Speedway GB website. Disagree 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofers Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 23 hours ago, Tsunami said: Yes as each home team has to send in a programme for each meeting. They ARE read. Before the meeting takes place ? And with enough time to censor or ask for amendments and a print re-run ? As you're in the know, any news of the SCB’s “full investigation” into the calling off of the Eastbourne v Mildenhall National league match last October ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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