OveFundinFan Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 12 hours ago, nw42 said: Which part of that manouvre means he turned left then? When he gets his back wheel to slide out to the right, effectively shutting a door for Bellego that he was more then half way through. I like NP riding, it aways full of effort, but I can see this trait in him that he will do virtually anything to block a rider challenging him. Thats ok to a point, but sometimes he oversteps the mark, and sometimes the referees acts on it. As for the meeting shown on Eurosport UK, 5 races, thats all we got. If you going to do it do it right or not bother. If they cant show it live, show a recording at a quieter time, or if restricted for time, show some highlights from the previous 16 races then show the last 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) Great to see Laguta back he actually looks more focused now than ever, i hope he qualifies for the GP series in 2020 .For me at his best he is a top eight rider and he would add more quality to the series. Edited July 14, 2019 by Sidney the robin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Great to see Laguta back he actually looks more focused now than ever, i hope he qualifies for the GP series in 2020 .For me at his best he is a top eight rider and he would add more quality to the series. He will need a wildcard as he didn’t do the qualifiers- not sure he would get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 Just now, racers and royals said: He will need a wildcard as he didn’t do the qualifiers- not sure he would get one. He should do what do you think racers?? he is not over the hill he still looks hungry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 It was the wrong hymn, and OneSport has done the same thing twice this year, after Chugunov had won the world u21 round in Poland last month, they did it too. On purpose perhaps? This is what Wikipedia writes about this outdated and unpopular hymn, that was played for the winner at Güstrow last night: The lyric-free "Patrioticheskaya Pesnya", composed by Mikhail Glinka, was officially adopted in 1990 by the Supreme Soviet of Russia and confirmed in 1993, after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, by the President of the Russian Federation, Boris Yeltsin. This anthem proved to be unpopular with the Russian public and with many politicians and public figures, because of its tune and lack of lyrics, and consequently its inability to inspire Russian athletes during international competitions. The government sponsored contests to create lyrics for the unpopular anthem, but none of the entries were adopted. Glinka's anthem was replaced soon after Yeltsin's successor, Vladimir Putin, first took office on 7 May 2000. The federal legislature established and approved the music of the National Anthem of the Soviet Union, with newly written lyrics, in December 2000, and it became the second anthem used by Russia after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Yeltsin criticized Putin for supporting the reintroduction of the Soviet-era national anthem even though opinion polls showed that many Russians favored this decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Leicester Lion said: So what if he was in front, or, more accurately, marginally ahead with his opponent alongside? It doesn't give a rider the right to ride dangerously. If Bellego had been left enough room he wouldn't have crashed. I saw a view from behind. There was room but Bellego hit a pile of dirt against the fence which unsettled him. Probably the same view the ref saw which allowed him to make his decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 Just now, Mark said: I saw a view from behind. There was room but Bellego hit a pile of dirt against the fence which unsettled him. Probably the same view the ref saw which allowed him to make his decision. Yes that view made it clear that it was Bellego's accident not due to illegal the riding of Pedersen. Reality is Pedersen has gained himself such a 'reputation' that most people cannot objectively see beyond. And he can only blame himself for that as he was such a dirty git way too often in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Grand Central said: Yes that view made it clear that it was Bellego's accident not due to illegal the riding of Pedersen. Reality is Pedersen has gained himself such a 'reputation' that most people cannot objectively see beyond. And he can only blame himself for that as he was such a dirty git way too often in the past. Pedersen was in print saying he was a too aggressive earlier in his career but I can't think of anything he's done in recent times that is worse than other riders. Zmarszik, Lindgren, Doyle have all pulled off moves far worse than Pedersen did. Madsen nearly put Fricke through the fence in a GP semi final but hardly a word said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 Yes I agree about recent history. But I don't think he can get away with 'spinning' his past as being 'too aggressive', that does not wash. He was often nasty, dirty and deliberately intent on taken riders out. That went way beyond what we can accept as being just youthful aggression. Good that the referee saw it correctly last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Mark said: Pedersen was in print saying he was a too aggressive earlier in his career but I can't think of anything he's done in recent times that is worse than other riders. Zmarszik, Lindgren, Doyle have all pulled off moves far worse than Pedersen did. Madsen nearly put Fricke through the fence in a GP semi final but hardly a word said. Not a fan of Pedersen but you are totally right Madsen got away with murder the other week with Fricke . It was only the professional attitude of Max that made him stay on thought Nicki was ruthless but was it an exclusion for Nicki a hard one to call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Not a fan of Pedersen but you are totally right Madsen got away with murder the other week with Fricke . It was only the professional attitude of Max that made him stay on thought Nicki was ruthless but was it an exclusion for Nicki a hard one to call. when Pedersen retires there will be nothing left to talk about if the sports rulers continue to have the bigger meetings on boring tracks. Gustrow was another boring meeting so we are talking about Pedersen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: He should do what do you think racers?? he is not over the hill he still looks hungry. Just think there will be others in the queue before him, like Fricke, Lambert, Drabik maybe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Grand Central said: Yes I agree about recent history. But I don't think he can get away with 'spinning' his past as being 'too aggressive', that does not wash. He was often nasty, dirty and deliberately intent on taken riders out. That went way beyond what we can accept as being just youthful aggression. Good that the referee saw it correctly last night. I wrote too aggressive. That wasn't the quote from Pedersen and cant remember what he said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 4,500 is an ok but not great crowd, considering they got 8,000 for the Whitsun Pfingstpokal meeting with a poorer quality field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 3 hours ago, racers and royals said: Just think there will be others in the queue before him, like Fricke, Lambert, Drabik maybe. Maybe that tells you what is wrong with Speedway the GP series the qualifying system is flawed still a closed shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 10 hours ago, Mark said: I saw a view from behind. There was room but Bellego hit a pile of dirt against the fence which unsettled him. Probably the same view the ref saw which allowed him to make his decision. Did Pedersen know the dirt was piled up near the fence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8gdp Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 Has anyone downloaded the meeting couldn't watch it last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 7 hours ago, r8gdp said: Has anyone downloaded the meeting couldn't watch it last night If you mean the Eurosport UK shown meeting, you didn’t miss much. Just 6 races shown, ht 17-20, semi an final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Carter Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Pedersen knows that if he closes the door on Bellego but is still in front he is unlikely to get excluded. I think the reason NP has so many more of these incidents is because: (1) he is vulnerable to the big blast round the outside. He's been under powered for the last 4-5 years (2) he's proper a dirty rider Still love him though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 5 hours ago, James Carter said: Pedersen knows that if he closes the door on Bellego but is still in front he is unlikely to get excluded. I think the reason NP has so many more of these incidents is because: (1) he is vulnerable to the big blast round the outside. He's been under powered for the last 4-5 years (2) he's proper a dirty rider Still love him though! He can't really be underpowered can he? You can't be underpowered for so long? If that is the case and sometimes it looks that way, then he needs different engine sponsors and new staff? I think he is just on the downward slope but still can be good to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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