ouch Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Yep to the first bit, which is a shame given the perceived passion provided in posts A club constitution is a simple document that outlines its functions and the rules under which it will operate. Off the peg stuff and generally just a dotting of the i’s and crossing of the t’s exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Not sure why this is being done to be honest... There must be (at least) around a 50% drop in attendances over the past 10 years, and much more than that in the last twenty.. Therefore, talking to people who still go (the huge minority in the country) won't for me give any solutions to any issues.. I personally don't attend (British domestic Speedway) anymore due to the constant Mickey Mouse contrived nonsense put out in front of me, however those who still go obviously are happy to collude with Promoters that it's a bona fide professional sporting competition, and fair play to them for their stance.. Therefore, by their very attendance, they must be reasonably content with what is being offered. And by their very belonging to a Supporters Club in the first place, it also suggests this.. What the BSPA need to do is their spend time engaging with the 99.95%of the population who don't attend a Speedway meeting each week rather than the 0.05% who do... A failing business would be far better off speaking with those who used to use you, or have never heard of you, rather than those who have remained loyal, even more so when that business has haemorrhaged so many customers in the past couple of decades in particular.. Several other Sports run similar meetings to see if it can any add value to, and enhance, an already strong operating and business model... Speedway sadly doesn't possess such a thing, so not sure that even the best ideas will do much more than cover the gaping wounds with a sticking plaster in all honesty.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 All quiet, and havent seen anything about this from my local Team.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 On 1/31/2019 at 3:40 AM, mikebv said: Not sure why this is being done to be honest... There must be (at least) around a 50% drop in attendances over the past 10 years, and much more than that in the last twenty.. Therefore, talking to people who still go (the huge minority in the country) won't for me give any solutions to any issues.. I personally don't attend (British domestic Speedway) anymore due to the constant Mickey Mouse contrived nonsense put out in front of me, however those who still go obviously are happy to collude with Promoters that it's a bona fide professional sporting competition, and fair play to them for their stance.. Therefore, by their very attendance, they must be reasonably content with what is being offered. And by their very belonging to a Supporters Club in the first place, it also suggests this.. What the BSPA need to do is their spend time engaging with the 99.95%of the population who don't attend a Speedway meeting each week rather than the 0.05% who do... A failing business would be far better off speaking with those who used to use you, or have never heard of you, rather than those who have remained loyal, even more so when that business has haemorrhaged so many customers in the past couple of decades in particular.. Several other Sports run similar meetings to see if it can any add value to, and enhance, an already strong operating and business model... Speedway sadly doesn't possess such a thing, so not sure that even the best ideas will do much more than cover the gaping wounds with a sticking plaster in all honesty.. which is why, and i've said this before so apologies, you offer free entry for a match or 2 in return for registering via email. You then have a database of potential and existing customers, even though it was free they showed an interest, and then you can market to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, ch958 said: which is why, and i've said this before so apologies, you offer free entry for a match or 2 in return for registering via email. You then have a database of potential and existing customers, even though it was free they showed an interest, and then you can market to them. Loads could be done... Sadly it seems it never is... Almost like they have given up and have decided that attracting new fans, or lapsed fans back, is a bridge too far, and that cutting costs and hoping to maintain the 'die hards' is the way forward.. For a Sport that has a 100% monopoly not just in the town/city they are in, but at least for circa 30 miles around it too, it is amazing more isn't done to get the message out locally.. 60 million people live in Britain. About 25000 at best attend Speedway each week.. What an opportunity to improve that equation, given that you are the 'only show' in so many places countrywide.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 All seems to have gone rather quiet on this. I was first told 26th so I booked the night off before work. I then had a communication saying it would be end of February to allow other clubs to select their representative. But since then I have heard absolutely nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, teaboy279 said: All seems to have gone rather quiet on this. I was first told 26th so I booked the night off before work. I then had a communication saying it would be end of February to allow other clubs to select their representative. But since then I have heard absolutely nothing. Maybe it has already demonstrated what the promoters expected it to demonstrate? That the fans are worse at organising a booze-up in a brewery than the promoters ever could be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I had been keeping my eye on this thread waiting for someone else rather than me to point out that its all gone rather quiet, My own Team Cradley have still not mentioned this Group on the CH website, and when you consider that one of our Promoters is none other than a Nigel Pearson whose job is in the media, and the other is CVS who has long been part of the top brass at the BSPa, it just about sums up the state of British Speedway, Piss up and Brewery come to mind. This will be another case of blowing smoke up peoples ar*es because this group wont even get of the ground if its left to the BSPA to organise it.. it begs the question why do they even bother.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 28 minutes ago, greyhoundp said: This will be another case of blowing smoke up peoples ar*es because this group wont even get of the ground if its left to the BSPA to organise it. But before the BSPA can organise to meet with the National Supporters Group, surely the fans have got to tell them who is in the group? Clearly Teaboy279 has been nominated by the Kent fans to represent them. I remember reading that the Belle Vue supporters club had nominated a representative (though I don't know a name), and I'm sure there was one other supporters club where I read they had put forward a representative. But that's about all. I'd have thought every supporters club in the country would be chomping at the bit to elect someone into the national group, but it seems very few have done it. Teaboy279 said there was a meeting planned, and he booked time off work to attend, but it had to be cancelled as the supporters at most clubs hadn't even bothered to nominate a representative Perhaps we can compile a list on here of the clubs and the name of their elected spokesperson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 My opinion on this is, run the meeting with the clubs that have nominated people. If it works the way the idea was designed too, I imagine the other clubs would quickly bring people to the table to join it. If it falls on death ears then a few of us Hardcore fans will have had a expensive day trip to some meeting room in the Midlands, but no one will have died. And no damage done. After all the sort of person who will attend these meetings, is also the sort of person to drive up the m6 to watch a meeting at stoke with questionable forecasts. Ie wasted journeys are part and parcel of speedway anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Fairplay to you Teaboy for your willingness and dedication to be involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Does every team have a 'supporters club'? I think it was only last year that the Aces put one together after many years of nothing... Maybe that is the issue? ie No 'supporters club' exists so no one is being nominated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 We havent been asked to nominate anyone at CH thats my whole point, even though we are sponsoring the Team in a small way this season, its not even been mentioned to us by the promotion, surely its not up to the supporters to find out the details about this ?, this is a BSPA initiative . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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