racers and royals Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) With plenty of the Championship teams rider targets likely to contracted to riding in Polish teams on Saturday/ Sunday, is it not time for the BSPA/SCB to come up with a firm rule covering facilities for missing riders who are riding elsewhere. My view is any rider who wants to do Poland can only ride Premiership(no clash on Mondays/Thursday`s) - ie NO facility for a rider riding Polish league. Here is a list of riders contracted to Polish teams-only included those i would think might ride in Championship.Poland do use a squad system so some listed below are not guaranteed meetings over there. Ellis Lidsey Erik Riss Bewley Etheridge Schlein Tungate Jorgensen Wilson-Dean Becker Grajczonek Morris Palm-Toft Summers Vissing Klindt Masters Jensen Lyager Aarnio Kus Stewart Stichauer Albin Todd Kurtz Keynan Rew Lawson Wright Bellego Bach Berge Wells Manzares Edited November 17, 2018 by racers and royals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 Worrall's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: Worrall's? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 The important thing is what days (potentially) do their Polish clubs ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, StevePark said: The important thing is what days (potentially) do their Polish clubs ride? It’s 80% Sundays 10% Fridays and 10% Saturdays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, racers and royals said: It’s 80% Sundays 10% Fridays and 10% Saturdays Sorry, but that doesn't really help. Newcastle and from next season, Sheffield are Sunday tracks, so which of the above riders does that rule out those two sides signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, StevePark said: Sorry, but that doesn't really help. Newcastle and from next season, Sheffield are Sunday tracks, so which of the above riders does that rule out those two sides signing? Potenially all of them- Nice Polska league(2nd Polish league) and 2nd div(3rd Polish tier) all ride on Sundays apart from some teams like Rawicz ride at home on Saturday’s - there are TV matches on Fridays and Saturday’s for teams who normally ride on Sunday’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, StevePark said: Sorry, but that doesn't really help. Newcastle and from next season, Sheffield are Sunday tracks, so which of the above riders does that rule out those two sides signing? well its not just that - it means teams turning up without some of those names - more guests/farcical fixtures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 Its time to tell these 2nd raters where to go,if they are going to miss UK fixtures for the odd meeting Poland let them sit in the house waiting for the Polish telephone call. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Its time to tell these 2nd raters where to go,if they are going to miss UK fixtures for the odd meeting Poland let them sit in the house waiting for the Polish telephone call. Hence the OP - what should the BSPA do ?? These riders however are hardly 2nd raters as far as the Championship goes. It’s going to be really difficult to fill 12 teams with riders not included in the list !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 contracted meetings for the full season, with DU a possibility or the chance of the odd match in Poland. If they were forced to make the choice I know which they would choose. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Hence the OP - what should the BSPA do ?? These riders however are hardly 2nd raters as far as the Championship goes. It’s going to be really difficult to fill 12 teams with riders not included in the list !! Do what's right fo GB speedway,fans want to see their riders every week,that is a major gripe among a lot of fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 Good luck to any rider who wants to ride in Poland, but its time for our BSPA to stand firm and rule that no facility will be given when the inevitable fixture clash comes along. For most riders Poland will always be first choice but there`s a number of riders who find out the hard way that its not always sweetness and light. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, screm said: Good luck to any rider who wants to ride in Poland, but its time for our BSPA to stand firm and rule that no facility will be given when the inevitable fixture clash comes along. For most riders Poland will always be first choice but there`s a number of riders who find out the hard way that its not always sweetness and light. even when you are getting married....................................... in Poland ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) The Sheffield promotion stated on Thursday that will not sign any rider who has a contract to ride in Poland, so none of them will be riding for us Would be good if the only facility for a rider missing a meeting in England was a NL guest as well Edited November 17, 2018 by The Third Man 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 With what steady was saying on Thursday about promises been broken and payments not been made then any rider signing for polish clubs deserve what they get.If they not going to pay Greg Hancock then the lesser riders have no chance and the contract that nick I pedersen has is ridiculous .Theres no way he will get paid the amount promised. Promotors would stay clear of riders entering the polish league if they could only use nl riders only.Steadys comments were backed up by Kyle howarths dad so it's about time the English lads realised were their loyalties lie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 Just now, Charlieboy said: With what steady was saying on Thursday about promises been broken and payments not been made then any rider signing for polish clubs deserve what they get.If they not going to pay Greg Hancock then the lesser riders have no chance and the contract that nick I pedersen has is ridiculous .Theres no way he will get paid the amount promised. Promotors would stay clear of riders entering the polish league if they could only use nl riders only.Steadys comments were backed up by Kyle howarths dad so it's about time the English lads realised were their loyalties lie. he also said its all about hoping to get paid, and that most get paid something eventually. I think they all know the risks now and they might just go there in hope they get paid on time or at all because if they do get paid it is a lot of money. the talk about Hancock was that the amount he was owed was in 100s of thousands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, The Third Man said: he also said its all about hoping to get paid, and that most get paid something eventually. I think they all know the risks now and they might just go there in hope they get paid on time or at all because if they do get paid it is a lot of money. the talk about Hancock was that the amount he was owed was in 100s of thousands They usually do get paid as clubs do not get a license to operate for the upcoming season if they still have debts (including rider payments). It's usually about January or February though (after the clubs tend to receive their sponsorship payments for the coming season). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 Well apparently Morris is owed £28000 and Hancock I think was said to be £300 000 it's a joke. Surely common sense says ride in England for two clubs and get paid I have no sympathy for any rider riding for a promise in this day and age when they know the likelihood of getting no money. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Charlieboy said: Well apparently Morris is owed £28000 and Hancock I think was said to be £300 000 it's a joke. Surely common sense says ride in England for two clubs and get paid I have no sympathy for any rider riding for a promise in this day and age when they know the likelihood of getting no money. Of course there have never been any complaints about riders not getting paid in the UK? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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