REDCAR 2019

[lewy]

This team will be the most entertaining to watch. Full of racers

[SSL84]

5 hours ago, Tigerforever said:

Astonished is the only word I can think of,  they were one of three clubs who pleaded poverty at the AGM and they put a team like that together!!   

was you at the AGM how do you know redcar pleaded poverty as you said? Worry about your own team!

[Tsunami]

7 minutes ago, Trackerman48 said:

was you at the AGM how do you know redcar pleaded poverty as you said? Worry about your own team!

Nobody has to have been at the AGM to know that both under Havvy and Kevin, all their teams were always quoted as being built to a strict budget,

[SSL84]

True but every team wheather be top or nl build to budgetes?

[Tsunami]

15 minutes ago, Trackerman48 said:

True but every team wheather be top or nl build to budgetes?

Not always to a tight or strict budget as said by Redcar. This is not a criticism, but it is a fact that the club has said it rightly so for the last few years. 

[cheekycobra]

Quote from the Bears promoter...

Whether you agree with the 38 points limit or not, it will do exactly what it was intended to do and that is to reset the balance between all 3 leagues and give the younger British riders a ladder on which to climb in the sport. Contrary to what some may tell you, my main motivation to support this limit at he AGM wasnt financial, but to develop new British talent. When all teams have been declared, take a look at the reserve berths in the Championship and you will see lots of young riders being given a shot as a direct result. British speedway will benefit in the long run from this new crop of riders getting their chance.

Read more: http://bears-talk.proboards.com/thread/3403/2019?page=10#ixzz5ZlUfN5Og
 

[SSL84]

Maybe this poverty thing can be put to bed now.

[Najjer]

1 hour ago, Trackerman48 said:

Maybe this poverty thing can be put to bed now.

Because it's a smoke screen for alterior motives, to get what they wanted.

[Yearbyred]

54 minutes ago, Najjer said:

Because it's a smoke screen for alterior motives, to get what they wanted.

I assume you mean ulterior.

Either way it worked, this cunning devious plan. 

[SSL84]

Ya it worked and we got a good team and hopefully in for a good season!......

[ch958]

2 hours ago, Najjer said:

Because it's a smoke screen for alterior motives, to get what they wanted.

explain?

[Najjer]

46 minutes ago, ch958 said:

explain?

All this nonsense about wanting to promote young British talent as being their reason for a 38.00 points limit. 

Redcar wanted a 38.00 points limit because they thought it would be their best chance of success in the league by restricting Glasgow, Somerset, Sheffield etc.. nothing to do with young Brits or what is best for British Speedway.

Edited December 15, 2018 by Najjer

[homer]

A lower points limit makes it not such a big gulf between the the National league and Championship ,so yeah it is about promoting British riders 

[ch958]

it seems to me that both of those aims have been met and i think that's fine. There is now clear divide between the leagues and NL riders are moving up. Don't see the problem

[Speedway4ever]

Just shows even with this years championship not always spending big can still get you success over the big money spenders. Workington proved that one.

Looking at Glasgow they look to have a good team too.

Redcar have looked at the points and I feel have picked wisely with experience and youth eager to win.

It can all look good on paper, but hopefully everyone's team in the Championship can do well on the track next season.

Redcar have never pleaded poverty, but work to a budget no matter who was running them

I hope we are up there higher next year.

[New era Panthers]

2 hours ago, Najjer said:

All this nonsense about wanting to promote young British talent as being their reason for a 38.00 points limit. 

Redcar wanted a 38.00 points limit because they thought it would be their best chance of success in the league by restricting Glasgow, Somerset, Sheffield etc.. nothing to do with young Brits or what is best for British Speedway.

Then Glasgow, Somerset and Sheffield should be racing in the Premier league and not with the poor poverty stricken teams , I'm sure they would have been accepted.

[cheekycobra]

16 hours ago, Najjer said:

All this nonsense about wanting to promote young British talent as being their reason for a 38.00 points limit. 

Redcar wanted a 38.00 points limit because they thought it would be their best chance of success in the league by restricting Glasgow, Somerset, Sheffield etc.. nothing to do with young Brits or what is best for British Speedway.

Those three teams are most peoples predictions for topping the league anyway, so what,s your problem. Maybe you wanted a 45 point average where those teams could have squeezed in the likes of Hans Andersen etc with two 5 point foreigners at reserve.

[Najjer]

12 minutes ago, cheekycobra said:

Those three teams are most peoples predictions for topping the league anyway, so what,s your problem. Maybe you wanted a 45 point average where those teams could have squeezed in the likes of Hans Andersen etc with two 5 point foreigners at reserve.

My problem is the constant watering down of the product year on year. 1 x British 2 pointer should of been compulsory. Best of both worlds. 

[ch958]

i get sick of this 'watering down' comment from all and sundry on here. The 'product' is the racing, not names. Well matched teams on a good racing surface is the 'product'.

[foamfence]

1 hour ago, Najjer said:

My problem is the constant watering down of the product year on year. 1 x British 2 pointer should of been compulsory. Best of both worlds. 

It's "should HAVE been compulsory" and it shouldn't. I thing British Speedway should give opportunities to young British riders, I think this years setup looks both refreshing and exciting and a pleasant change from helping foreign riders develop.