Norfolk Bear Posted July 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 Surprised we got Riss , I thought that Edibirgh would be making space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 Cannot see Wooley coping in the Championship what about an Edwards or a Brooks type a really strange decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erimus11 Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, The H Man said: As a mate and sponsor of Ulrich, naturally gutted for him but nothing surprises me as teams happy to chop and change their team at the drop of a hat and Redcar promotion obviously happy to join the growing trend of moving riders on after only a few meetings. What I do think is disappointing in this case is that on Saturday night at Leicester the promotion had every opportunity to be straight with him as obviously they’d already made their minds up to drop him, but instead praised him and said they could see signs of the Ulrich they knew and loved So the guy books all his flights for July, then finds out 2 days later he is axed moments after being given the rider of the night award after delivering the goods with 11 points against arguably the leagues strongest team I think he deserves a little better treatment as someone who has been very loyal to British clubs over the past decade, not one to cry off at the drop of a hat, doesn’t whinge about track conditions and always happy to chat with the fans! Good points made there - imagine how I feel, being the person who chose him as our rider of the night and presented him with a bottle of bubbly! Keep me away from the voting panel in future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Norfolk Bear said: Surprised we got Riss , I thought that Edibirgh would be making space Had a habit of going missing in the later part of meetings and i think they got quite frustrated with him. However that was last year ............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, The H Man said: As a mate and sponsor of Ulrich, naturally gutted for him but nothing surprises me as teams happy to chop and change their team at the drop of a hat and Redcar promotion obviously happy to join the growing trend of moving riders on after only a few meetings. What I do think is disappointing in this case is that on Saturday night at Leicester the promotion had every opportunity to be straight with him as obviously they’d already made their minds up to drop him, but instead praised him and said they could see signs of the Ulrich they knew and loved So the guy books all his flights for July, then finds out 2 days later he is axed moments after being given the rider of the night award after delivering the goods with 11 points against arguably the leagues strongest team I think he deserves a little better treatment as someone who has been very loyal to British clubs over the past decade, not one to cry off at the drop of a hat, doesn’t whinge about track conditions and always happy to chat with the fans! I've been saying for a while now Wholesale team changes should not be allowed during the season. Lots if reasons why not the most important the extra cost involved......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothers Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, MD said: Had a habit of going missing in the later part of meetings and i think they got quite frustrated with him. However that was last year ............ ??? I have every score of his from last year in front of me at the moment and don't see how you can justify this statement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, MD said: Had a habit of going missing in the later part of meetings and i think they got quite frustrated with him. However that was last year ............ On a “going day” he can look like a world champ ,but can be woeful on an “off day”.Typical of a lot of modern days riders,there’s always another meeting somewhere in the Continent to look forward too.Might not always be on his best engines or tired out with travel. Imo. Class act though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 Riss a very good signing for the Bears but feel for Ully who appeared to be finding his form. Tom Woolley rode on numerous occasions for Worky Comets in the second half of 2017 season, it's fair to say he was nowhere near Championship level at that time. Seems like the Bears never gave Jack Smith any time to change his mind so it was probably in the managements thoughts to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, SteelShoe said: Riss a very good signing for the Bears but feel for Ully who appeared to be finding his form. Tom Woolley rode on numerous occasions for Worky Comets in the second half of 2017 season, it's fair to say he was nowhere near Championship level at that time. Seems like the Bears never gave Jack Smith any time to change his mind so it was probably in the managements thoughts to replace him. So a rider asks to be replaced but then you decide to wait s day a week a month in case they change their mind!! Possibly the most ridiculous post I have read this season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 they've replaced a reserve who scores little with a reserve guaranteed to score nothing, other signings are risky too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, ruckerroo said: they've replaced a reserve who scores little with a reserve guaranteed to score nothing, other signings are risky too Looking on the bright side..... They've signed a new number one and found an adequate replacement for a rider with a serious injury. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 Think the points played a part in it needed to drop smith to fit the other 2 plus a 2 pointer JS was just over 3 and Tom bacon might not be back this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedway28 Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 What's the deal with Jack Smith? A move lined up or just wanting to quit Championship racing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, Speedway28 said: What's the deal with Jack Smith? A move lined up or just wanting to quit Championship racing? It doesn’t look like Smith is going to make a big impression in the Sport IMO.Had more chance than a lot of juniors but not showing much.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed ace Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, Speedway28 said: What's the deal with Jack Smith? A move lined up or just wanting to quit Championship racing? Something tells me Jack did not step down voluntarily 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 To be fair, the release from Redcar says what happened. Jack said he wanted to leave (rumour has it after being replaced in one of his rides by Nathan Greaves in the Leicester home meeting). He then changed his mind, but deal had ready been done with Andersen. A tad hasty by Redcar perhaps, but if a rider tells you he wants to be released how long do you give him to change his mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 Seems a bizarre move with the cup tie on Friday in mind . Ok Riss is probably an improvement on Ostergaard and it would seem Bacon might not be fit again this season . But Woolley for Smith ???? Dont see how that is going to improve things , and Anderson looked woeful at Glasgow when Sheffield were up in the last round . I was concerned about using r/r for Bacon in the second leg , as arguably it made Redcar stronger , but with Anderson and Woolley now in their side , I'm a bit more confident of Glasgow progressing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 I think it is still r/r for Bacon on Friday. Andersen does not come in until Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yearbyred Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 I assume we needed a 2 point rider when we got Riss as a new Nr1 to stay below the points limit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed ace Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 hours ago, speed ace said: Something tells me Jack did not step down voluntarily 2 hours ago, speed ace said: Something tells me Jack did not step down voluntarily 2 hours ago, Speedway28 said: What's the deal with Jack Smith? A move lined up or just wanting to quit Championship racing? Sorry hadn't realized he had asked to step down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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