foamfence Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 52 minutes ago, jenga said: can you point out the poor riders please ? Wallinger, Bickley (good lad but out of his depth), Ostergaard (clapped out), Lambert, and a few others who are being given an outing because they're in the team but who won't be challenging the bigger names. I suppose it's a good thing it's a 4TT. Anyway NB stated it was a pretty good line up (in his opinion) and I didn't agree (my opinion), which is what happens on forums. I suppose the one name still to come, could make it look more attractive though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 its a pity riders old and new just cant jump on a bike and be world beaters . looks like everyones opinion of a decent lineup varies between us humans .. i would pay money to watch this line up . its for a good cause and i hope it gets a good following . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, jenga said: its a pity riders old and new just cant jump on a bike and be world beaters . looks like everyones opinion of a decent lineup varies between us humans .. i would pay money to watch this line up . its for a good cause and i hope it gets a good following . That's fair enough, I was a little disappointed when I saw it, I know some of Ben's close friends among riders but they don't seem to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Bear Posted February 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 Line ups for Ben Barker 4 Teams 4 Team EventRedcarBarkerWrightBaconStewartM'broMastersPalm ToftGreavesWallingerWorkingtonWorrallWilson DeanLambertBickleyNewcastleJorgensonKerrOstergaardan otherRead more: http://bears-talk.proboards.com/thread/3419/barkers-testimonial-plans#ixzz5gBv3b4jn i still think that is a good line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/20/2019 at 6:41 PM, foamfence said: Wallinger, Bickley (good lad but out of his depth), Ostergaard (clapped out), Lambert, and a few others who are being given an outing because they're in the team but who won't be challenging the bigger names. I suppose it's a good thing it's a 4TT. Anyway NB stated it was a pretty good line up (in his opinion) and I didn't agree (my opinion), which is what happens on forums. I suppose the one name still to come, could make it look more attractive though. Wallinger has invested heavily on new gear this season & Kyle Bickley is progressing in the correct way & as it's a friendly 4 TT I'm sure the track time ( extra ) will do them the world of good,,, good on Ben for the invitation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 Just now, pienpeesman said: Wallinger has invested heavily on new gear this season & Kyle Bickley is progressing in the correct way & as it's a friendly 4 TT I'm sure the track time ( extra ) will do them the world of good,,, good on Ben for the invitation I hope it will too but that doesn't exactly make it a great line-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 It would be great to see Josh embleton as the 4th diamond... But that's Ben's call !! As the lad really rides the track well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, foamfence said: I hope it will too but that doesn't exactly make it a great line-up. Agree but we need to be thankful we're still seeing speedway at the end of the day as it's getting harder & harder to run speedway every season up here in the north... I don't know what & when we could've got ready for the season up in toon if it wasn't for Danny & his dad as they have only been the only new faces to join the track team as there's only a hardcore of 7 of us #hardgraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 10 hours ago, foamfence said: I hope it will too but that doesn't exactly make it a great line-up. you could say that about most championship and premier teams in 19 . use it or lose it .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 11 hours ago, foamfence said: I hope it will too but that doesn't exactly make it a great line-up. I agree it isn't a "great" line up in the sense of world class GP riders - In an ideal world we would want to see Tai Woffinden, Greg Hancock, Nikki Pederson, Freddie Lindgren, 2 or 3 top Polish riders, Jason Doyle, Emil Sayfutdinov, Hans Andersen etc etc. You could also argue that a "better" line up would include the likes of Robert Lambert, Danny King, Craig Cook, Jack Holder, Chris Harris etc etc. However this is a testimonial meeting and most of those riders won't be available, or will be reluctant to ride for the basic pay on offer (You only have to look at line up for the Ben Fund - very similar to Ben's line up!!) What Ben has done in assembling his line up goes very much in tune with his character, he has all his new team mates on board (except one who is unavailable) as he sees the value in giving them track time and it will help to build team spirit for the coming season. He has made the gesture of including Workington (a good commercial decision if it entices comets fans over) and giving the likes of Simon Lambert and Kyle Bickley the opportunity to get additional races under their belt and remind promoters they are available. I assume the invite to David Wallinger is a thank you for all the assistance he has given Ben whilst he has been with Redcar, again a typical gesture from BB. So no it isn't a "great" line up in the true sense, but when you look into the reasoning and thought behind the line up it is a very, very good one and I hope many fans come along to support all the riders 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 On 2/21/2019 at 9:27 PM, pienpeesman said: Agree but we need to be thankful we're still seeing speedway at the end of the day as it's getting harder & harder to run speedway every season up here in the north... I don't know what & when we could've got ready for the season up in toon if it wasn't for Danny & his dad as they have only been the only new faces to join the track team as there's only a hardcore of 7 of us #hardgraft the term in newcastle for signing for your dole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 8 hours ago, homer said: the term in newcastle for signing for your dole So what's the term down the pollution capital of the country ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 8:56 AM, northyorksbear said: I agree it isn't a "great" line up in the sense of world class GP riders - In an ideal world we would want to see Tai Woffinden, Greg Hancock, Nikki Pederson, Freddie Lindgren, 2 or 3 top Polish riders, Jason Doyle, Emil Sayfutdinov, Hans Andersen etc etc. You could also argue that a "better" line up would include the likes of Robert Lambert, Danny King, Craig Cook, Jack Holder, Chris Harris etc etc. However this is a testimonial meeting and most of those riders won't be available, or will be reluctant to ride for the basic pay on offer (You only have to look at line up for the Ben Fund - very similar to Ben's line up!!) What Ben has done in assembling his line up goes very much in tune with his character, he has all his new team mates on board (except one who is unavailable) as he sees the value in giving them track time and it will help to build team spirit for the coming season. He has made the gesture of including Workington (a good commercial decision if it entices comets fans over) and giving the likes of Simon Lambert and Kyle Bickley the opportunity to get additional races under their belt and remind promoters they are available. I assume the invite to David Wallinger is a thank you for all the assistance he has given Ben whilst he has been with Redcar, again a typical gesture from BB. So no it isn't a "great" line up in the true sense, but when you look into the reasoning and thought behind the line up it is a very, very good one and I hope many fans come along to support all the riders Well said - totally agree Best posting I've read in 2019 so far 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Mad Max said: Well said - totally agree Best posting I've read in 2019 so far 100% spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 8:56 AM, northyorksbear said: I agree it isn't a "great" line up in the sense of world class GP riders - In an ideal world we would want to see Tai Woffinden, Greg Hancock, Nikki Pederson, Freddie Lindgren, 2 or 3 top Polish riders, Jason Doyle, Emil Sayfutdinov, Hans Andersen etc etc. You could also argue that a "better" line up would include the likes of Robert Lambert, Danny King, Craig Cook, Jack Holder, Chris Harris etc etc. However this is a testimonial meeting and most of those riders won't be available, or will be reluctant to ride for the basic pay on offer (You only have to look at line up for the Ben Fund - very similar to Ben's line up!!) What Ben has done in assembling his line up goes very much in tune with his character, he has all his new team mates on board (except one who is unavailable) as he sees the value in giving them track time and it will help to build team spirit for the coming season. He has made the gesture of including Workington (a good commercial decision if it entices comets fans over) and giving the likes of Simon Lambert and Kyle Bickley the opportunity to get additional races under their belt and remind promoters they are available. I assume the invite to David Wallinger is a thank you for all the assistance he has given Ben whilst he has been with Redcar, again a typical gesture from BB. So no it isn't a "great" line up in the true sense, but when you look into the reasoning and thought behind the line up it is a very, very good one and I hope many fans come along to support all the riders as others have said, well done to ben on the line up and i hope for him that he gets the turnout he deserves.cant be there personally on the day but hope the weathers kind and that everything runs smoothly for him.a very very well deserved meeting for one of the great characters of the sport.good luck ben. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendonebunching Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Coming up from Plymouth for this, can someone please confirm what time it starts. Edited February 24, 2019 by Bendonebunching 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Bear Posted February 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Bendonebunching said: Coming up from Plymouth for this, can someone please confirm what time it starts. Nothing finalised as far as I know ,I would expect around 1 , I will look on the forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 9 hours ago, Bendonebunching said: Coming up from Plymouth for this, can someone please confirm what time it starts. It was stated as 3pm in Speedway Star this week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 BSPA fixture list says 19.30 but Redcar website fixture list says 15.00 Based on who is running the meeting and the ability of the BSPA to get anything right I would say 15.00 is the right time! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janice Jackson Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 59 minutes ago, Chris116 said: BSPA fixture list says 19.30 but Redcar website fixture list says 15.00 Based on who is running the meeting and the ability of the BSPA to get anything right I would say 15.00 is the right time! It is 3pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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