Cupidstunt Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 Don't see the big attraction with the team 3 heat leaders, 4 reserves on last years form won't make playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyfox Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/16/2018 at 1:46 PM, foamfence said: It's "should HAVE been compulsory" and it shouldn't. I thing British Speedway should give opportunities to young British riders, I think this years setup looks both refreshing and exciting and a pleasant change from helping foreign riders develop. "I thing British Speedway" ?????? pot calling kettle...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyfox Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Cupidstunt said: Don't see the big attraction with the team 3 heat leaders, 4 reserves on last years form won't make playoffs 3 good heat leaders & 4 with great potential. Can only go,one way........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelDan Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, slyfox said: 3 good heat leaders & 4 with great potential. Can only go,one way........ 3 inconsistent heat leaders, they can beat anyone on their day but also have the odd shocker. Charles is a great signing. I’m think the team looks ok but it doesn’t stand out for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/16/2018 at 12:26 PM, ch958 said: i get sick of this 'watering down' comment from all and sundry on here. The 'product' is the racing, not names. Well matched teams on a good racing surface is the 'product'. I personally couldn't disagree any more with you. The SGP provides much better racing than National League. The higher quality riders on a good track provide better entertainment. The product and quality is constantly weakened by the teams constantly being watered down on a yearly basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, Najjer said: I personally couldn't disagree any more with you. The SGP provides much better racing than National League. The higher quality riders on a good track provide better entertainment. The product and quality is constantly weakened by the teams constantly being watered down on a yearly basis. well i couldn't disagree with you more. GPs do provide good entertainment so they say, i can't get interested in them. Just opinions i know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, ch958 said: well i couldn't disagree with you more. GPs do provide good entertainment so they say, i can't get interested in them. Just opinions i know. Spot on for the first twelve heats of most GPs, with the riders hugging the white line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 44 minutes ago, Najjer said: I personally couldn't disagree any more with you. The SGP provides much better racing than National League. The higher quality riders on a good track provide better entertainment. The product and quality is constantly weakened by the teams constantly being watered down on a yearly basis. IMO the reason why the GP's provide better racing consistently than any league is because you have the closest matched riders in ability competing against each other. If teams were made up of riders starting on 3-5 point averages the racing would be more entertaining, all leagues are blighted with 2/3 point riders at one end and 9/10 at the other, then wonder why close exciting racing isn't regularly served up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: IMO the reason why the GP's provide better racing consistently than any league is because you have the closest matched riders in ability competing against each other. If teams were made up of riders starting on 3-5 point averages the racing would be more entertaining, all leagues are blighted with 2/3 point riders at one end and 9/10 at the other, then wonder why close exciting racing isn't regularly served up. there's 4 positions up for grabs in a race! 3rd place instead of 4th might be the point that wins the match. Its a team game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, ch958 said: well i couldn't disagree with you more. GPs do provide good entertainment so they say, i can't get interested in them. Just opinions i know. GPs as a collective doesn't interest me compared to team sport. However, the standard of racing on offer and the quality is far superior compared to National League. 1 hour ago, Sings4Speedway said: IMO the reason why the GP's provide better racing consistently than any league is because you have the closest matched riders in ability competing against each other. If teams were made up of riders starting on 3-5 point averages the racing would be more entertaining, all leagues are blighted with 2/3 point riders at one end and 9/10 at the other, then wonder why close exciting racing isn't regularly served up. Absolutely - That'll only be worse this year with Cook, Schlein, Harris, Nicholls, King hanging around and a shed load of 2 pointers coming in at reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Najjer said: I personally couldn't disagree any more with you. The SGP provides much better racing than National League. The higher quality riders on a good track provide better entertainment. The product and quality is constantly weakened by the teams constantly being watered down on a yearly basis. The most boring races you will see all year are the first heats in the GP's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/16/2018 at 12:26 PM, ch958 said: i get sick of this 'watering down' comment from all and sundry on here. The 'product' is the racing, not names. Well matched teams on a good racing surface is the 'product'. While I agree its the product that matters,can they justify the prices they are currently charging for the “ watering down”.Think a lot of people will thinking twice regarding paying former “big names” over the top money IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fromafar said: While I agree its the product that matters,can they justify the prices they are currently charging for the “ watering down”.Think a lot of people will thinking twice regarding paying former “big names” over the top money IMO. So what would be gained by dropping the price and the debts continuing with early closure by the promotions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tsunami said: So what would be gained by dropping the price and the debts continuing with early closure by the promotions. Nothing would be gained,just pointing out one of the the reasons why people wont be flocking back to the sport IMO.Wages to riders are the reason the sport is in the state that it is in.Set pay rates with bonuses to riders if crowd levels increase instead of giving them money that can’t be afforded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, Fromafar said: While I agree its the product that matters,can they justify the prices they are currently charging for the “ watering down”.Think a lot of people will thinking twice regarding paying former “big names” over the top money IMO. I think think next years team is better than this year's was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, foamfence said: I think think next years team is better than this year's was. In Redcar’s case I agree.You have to agree the standards has been watered down though with the new points limit.Some teams are suffering more than others regarding points limit,Redcars poor season last year has helped them. IMO.I wish them well as it’s a great racetrack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Bottom Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 Merry Christmas all... Xmas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekycobra Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 Michael Palm-Toft 2 Tom Bacon 3 Ben Barker 4 Jordan Stewart 5 Charles Wright 6 Jack Smith 7 Nathan Greaves Just wondering how the team might line up. I think Ben and Jordan should pair up after riding together last season. The same with PMT and Tom. I'd put Nathan at 7, the strongest reserve with the easier heats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Bear Posted January 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 1st Meeting is set for Saturday March 23rd - Ben Barker Testimonial. No football that weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Redcar require a new team sponsor... http://www.redcar-speedway.com/2019/01/07/bears-thank-ecco/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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