cityrebel Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Chris116 said: When BMR took over from Len Silver they started a number of improvements but it appears they ran out of money or enthusiasm before any of them were completed. If they had started one project and finished it before doing the next one the place would be in a much better state than it is. On the subject of paying riders, surely the bond should have been used by the BSPA to pay the riders or has it been used and a balance is still owed? If money is still owed then it is right that BMR are not allowed to promote speedway but it should not stop another promotion using the track or has the BSPA said that speedway cannot be run at the track until those outstanding bills have been paid. A track licence for 2019 would need to be issued before any prospective promoter took up residence. Easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 46 minutes ago, cityrebel said: A track licence for 2019 would need to be issued before any prospective promoter took up residence. Easier said than done. When was the current one issued? They are valid for 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted November 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, BWitcher said: You call yourself a speedway fan? That has been a fun part of the sport ever since I've been following it (1984). Yes I do and of long standing. If you think it is fun I have no problem with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedthebaw Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 16 hours ago, wealdstone said: Amongst all the to my mind stupid imaginary team building is no body concerned that the whole of British Speedway is effectively now in the hands of one man? From where I see it,In simple terms, without that one man, there would be no top league. Love him or hate him he has on his own kept the league afloat. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 16 hours ago, wealdstone said: Amongst all the to my mind stupid imaginary team building is no body concerned that the whole of British Speedway is effectively now in the hands of one man? I would say that many of us have concerns but if you look at what has happened in other sports then snooker is a good example of a near dictatorship working for the good of the sport. I agree that it could go wrong but I think we should give it a chance and try to be positive in the hope that it works out for the best. I write the above while very depressed that I have no easily accessible track to watch racing but hope that things will get better and recently lost tracks will reappear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, Alan_Jones said: When was the current one issued? They are valid for 3 years. Three years, I'm suprised by that. Promoters and owners change, plus changes to track and fence etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, cityrebel said: Three years, I'm suprised by that. Promoters and owners change, plus changes to track and fence etc. If any substantial changes are made then a re-inspection is needed, otherwise it's just a case of applying for a renewal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 49 minutes ago, Alan_Jones said: If any substantial changes are made then a re-inspection is needed, otherwise it's just a case of applying for a renewal. It doesn't matter if the track licence is 3 or 23 years, if standards ain't kept up to SCB/BSPA requirements they have a right to terminate the licence regardless. I'm amazed when that MotoX track was installed the Speedway wasn't shut down immediately on health and safety. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedthebaw Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 hours ago, cityrebel said: Three years, I'm suprised by that. Promoters and owners change, plus changes to track and fence etc. It is also inspected by the referee at every meeting and reported back to the SCB, if standards fall are are not complied with, the licence can be revoked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 19 hours ago, wealdstone said: Amongst all the to my mind stupid imaginary team building is no body concerned that the whole of British Speedway is effectively now in the hands of one man? Nonsense. He doesn't even have a majority in the top flight and there are (at present) 20 other clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted November 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Halifaxtiger said: Nonsense. He doesn't even have a majority in the top flight and there are (at present) 20 other clubs. I respect your opinion , but in my view he has the clout to close down the premier league if so minded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, wealdstone said: I respect your opinion , but in my view he has the clout to close down the premier league if so minded Even if that is accepted, it doesn't mean by a long chalk that speedway is under the control of one man. You overlook the fact that without him the Premiership probably would have closed down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted November 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, Halifaxtiger said: Even if that is accepted, it doesn't mean by a long chalk that speedway is under the control of one man. You overlook the fact that without him the Premiership probably would have closed down. Exactly the point I am making closing it down is in his hands one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadster Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 The air fence hasn't helped Rye House. Last time I was there, there were really only quite limited viewing options. As it stood, I always thought it was a track that didn't need an air fence such was the amount of run off on the bends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 36 minutes ago, Chadster said: The air fence hasn't helped Rye House. Last time I was there, there were really only quite limited viewing options. As it stood, I always thought it was a track that didn't need an air fence such was the amount of run off on the bends All licenced tracks have to have an air fence. It's compulsory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 11 hours ago, GWC said: If Rye House were to settle their bills and monies owed to riders the bspa might let them rejoin a league. It’s not just Rye house that owe riders thousands. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Jonny the spud said: It’s not just Rye house that owe riders thousands. So, Swindon or Lakeside?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, wealdstone said: Exactly the point I am making closing it down is in his hands one way or the other. If two of the other clubs(or maybe even just one) had pulled out, the Premiership would have folded no matter what Chapman did. It isn't just down to him. However, it is down to him buying into Peterborough & Ipswich that the Premiership is able to continue in 2019. It is typical of the attitude of some members of this forum that a man saving not just a team but an entire league can be twisted into something suitable for negative comment. Its little wonder that the forum itself is often regarded as utterly without credibility. Edited November 16, 2018 by Halifaxtiger 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Halifaxtiger said: If two of the other clubs(or maybe even just one) had pulled out, the Premiership would have folded no matter what Chapman did. It isn't just down to him. However, it is down to him buying into Peterborough & Ipswich that the Premiership is able to continue in 2019. It is typical of the attitude of some members of this forum that a man saving not just a team but an entire league can be twisted into something suitable for negative comment. Its little wonder that the forum itself is often regarded as utterly without credibility. Buster is clearly no mug, he has a very solid product at Kings Lynn however without a Premiership to race in it is useless. His takeovers enable his priority venture to continue in the setting he wishes. With any luck he will buy Mildenhall & Rye House ready to move them up too next sseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted November 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Halifaxtiger said: If two of the other clubs(or maybe even just one) had pulled out, the Premiership would have folded no matter what Chapman did. It isn't just down to him. However, it is down to him buying into Peterborough & Ipswich that the Premiership is able to continue in 2019. It is typical of the attitude of some members of this forum that a man saving not just a team but an entire league can be twisted into something suitable for negative comment. Its little wonder that the forum itself is often regarded as utterly without credibility. Oh Dear!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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