Sings4Speedway Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 14 hours ago, oldtimer said: Heat 2 will be ok, but watching the reserves tailed off at the back not very exciting. Waiting for the good news, will it be Conference League admission prices? You say that but with most NL clubs charging £13-14 its still not exactly a bargain rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 11 hours ago, Willowman said: Back to the bad old days of poor reserves across all clubs which was farcical a few years ago. Why don't the BSPA learn from their mistakes? In all fairness the reserves aren't poor although some are probably getting moved up a season early. The problem is that the top end is too strong. Changing the averages would have resolved this IF the promotions had taken it in the spirit it was intended and built strength in depth rather than create vast gulfs in their own teams. Its available in the rules so they have done it but its short sighted as the product as a whole will suffer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: In all fairness the reserves aren't poor although some are probably getting moved up a season early. The problem is that the top end is too strong. Changing the averages would have resolved this IF the promotions had taken it in the spirit it was intended and built strength in depth rather than create vast gulfs in their own teams. Its available in the rules so they have done it but its short sighted as the product as a whole will suffer. I hear and respect what you're saying. The way I see it, lowering the points limit to 38 is in general being accommodated at the lower end and as you say, forcing teams to include riders who are not necessarily ready for the step up. What has happened to the good old days where riders progressed on merit? This farcical points limit is driving me mad, diluting the CL, forcing riders out of work and killing speedway. I've never had such a downer about the season ahead as I have now and to be honest, I'm past the point of caring which is quite sad for a supporter of the Rebels since they started and a Bandits fan long before that. I will of course continue to support until the day I have nothing to support but many of the supporters I stood with years ago no longer do. I'm probably the last of at least 10. Watch out PL; the 38 points limit will be with you too! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 19 hours ago, oldtimer said: Heat 2 will be ok, but watching the reserves tailed off at the back not very exciting. Waiting for the good news, will it be Conference League admission prices? No! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Willowman said: No! Shocking value on a season ticket too. If you miss two matches you are out of pocket! Farcial that price reflected against the PL pricing too. Just when you think it can't get any worse, Jason Doyle has signed for Swindon today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 52 minutes ago, Najjer said: Shocking value on a season ticket too. If you miss two matches you are out of pocket! Farcial that price reflected against the PL pricing too. Just when you think it can't get any worse, Jason Doyle has signed for Swindon today Season ticket at £215 for 15 matches works out at £14-33 a match, so I assume full admission is £16 giving a saving of £25 and as Najjer says if you miss two you are out of pocket, as most people have 2 weeks away on holiday, not counting absences for sickness or family occasions, I cannot see why anyone would buy one. Perhaps the admission is actually £17 which would give a saving of £40 which seems unlikely. So far no price quoted for OAP concessions just students. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 On 11/26/2018 at 10:49 AM, montie said: looking at the make up of other teams though they all will be running 2 pointers[ish] at reserve so that will even things up a bit The sensible thing for the BSPA to do is have two reserve races, that will be more entertaining and give the reserves a chance rather than them getting low points every match and getting demoralised. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry The Goat Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 51 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Season ticket at £215 for 15 matches works out at £14-33 a match, so I assume full admission is £16 giving a saving of £25 and as Najjer says if you miss two you are out of pocket, as most people have 2 weeks away on holiday, not counting absences for sickness or family occasions, I cannot see why anyone would buy one. Perhaps the admission is actually £17 which would give a saving of £40 which seems unlikely. So far no price quoted for OAP concessions just students. If you think the adult season ticket isn't too enticing, look closer at the student version - £203 for 15 meetings. Whereas you'd pay a total of £210 if you attended all meetings at the £14 per meeting student price. A saving of just £7 over the year. Has this been thought through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry The Goat Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 On 11/26/2018 at 2:46 PM, idh said: Room for BWD Hope so. There are few enough riders coming back to the team from the season just gone. Just Nico so far. Would be good to have a semblance of continuity, despite dropping down from the PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 BWD and Berge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttons Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Harry The Goat said: If you think the adult season ticket isn't too enticing, look closer at the student version - £203 for 15 meetings. Whereas you'd pay a total of £210 if you attended all meetings at the £14 per meeting student price. A saving of just £7 over the year. Has this been thought through Edited November 27, 2018 by Buttons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romans lovechild Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 bwd and Zach waj to complete what will look a good team for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 14 hours ago, oldtimer said: The sensible thing for the BSPA to do is have two reserve races, that will be more entertaining and give the reserves a chance rather than them getting low points every match and getting demoralised. I like this or at least moving the reserve race back in the program. The reserves have all the pressure and best points scoring opportunity in heat 2 (the first look at the track for some and often with setups far from perfect) if it was run later in the meeting or as suggested twice how many think the results would remain the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: I like this or at least moving the reserve race back in the program. The reserves have all the pressure and best points scoring opportunity in heat 2 (the first look at the track for some and often with setups far from perfect) if it was run later in the meeting or as suggested twice how many think the results would remain the same. The thing is it didn't really work in the old elite league when you had two reserve races. Again it was put there as the difference in standards was too great, but by later in the meeting on too many occasions one of the reserves had been withdrawn through injury and you ended up with 3 rider races. Those pleading for value for money are going to love that! Edited November 28, 2018 by wtf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 World Team Long Track Champion Dimitri Berge will ride for Somerset in the 2019 Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 14 hours ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: BWD and Berge? Well that was a good guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupidstunt Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 Schlien berge todd kurtz Harris Rowe Atkins Covatti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idh Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, Cupidstunt said: Schlien berge todd kurtz Harris Rowe Atkins Covatti I think you may be spot on there Kurtz average fits BWD doesn't now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, idh said: I think you may be spot on there Kurtz average fits BWD doesn't now BWD would of fit, as I think Somerset have 6.30 remaining. But it won't be him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, idh said: I think you may be spot on there Kurtz average fits BWD doesn't now Like with Jake Allen, it doesn't come as much of a surprise that Bradley isn't included in the team for next year. I would imagine he's off to Eastbourne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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