foreverblue Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Starman2006 said: Jeez, if every fan was like you the league would be dead and buried by now. It won't be long before it is and we get one league. Edited January 22, 2019 by foreverblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Starman2006 said: Jeez, if every fan was like you the league would be dead and buried by now. I see your out and about moaning again about what other people post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, maneacat said: You need to wake up and smell the coffee - if you believe the Fairy story we have all been fed so far! Transparency and honesty is the first things we need from a new owner especially as he is the Chairman of the BSPA but so far it appears sadly lacking. not a question of that,but back to my point that the mighty panthers seem to roll from one crisis to the next which is very say for a club like that,not to mention one of in not the best race tracks in the country Maybe,just maybe Mr Chapman can deliver to Boro what he has delivered to Lynn,and that is a period of stability and relative success i didnt see many others stepping up to save the club again.....so best foot forward and give it a bloody good go in the top flight once again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, montie said: not a question of that,but back to my point that the mighty panthers seem to roll from one crisis to the next which is very say for a club like that,not to mention one of in not the best race tracks in the country Maybe,just maybe Mr Chapman can deliver to Boro what he has delivered to Lynn,and that is a period of stability and relative success i didnt see many others stepping up to save the club again.....so best foot forward and give it a bloody good go in the top flight once again Possibly due to the fact that as is the norm in Speedway everything is and has to be secret. Edited January 22, 2019 by wealdstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 53 minutes ago, montie said: not a question of that,but back to my point that the mighty panthers seem to roll from one crisis to the next which is very say for a club like that,not to mention one of in not the best race tracks in the country Maybe,just maybe Mr Chapman can deliver to Boro what he has delivered to Lynn,and that is a period of stability and relative success i didnt see many others stepping up to save the club again.....so best foot forward and give it a bloody good go in the top flight once again Well as far as i'm aware there were 3 genuine offers on the table and obviously Chapman's must have been the best deal even though it wasn't as much as what Ged's valuation was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BluTiger Posted January 22, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Starman2006 said: Jeez, if every fan was like you the league would be dead and buried by now. If every fan was like me Starry Speedway would still be booming. I regularly attend meetings at Boro, Ipswich and Mildenhall, and have done for many many years... 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Nice positive statement from the Team Manager on the Panthers website - new signing hopefully confirmed/announced by the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, BluPanther said: If every fan was like me Starry Speedway would still be booming. I regularly attend meetings at Boro, Ipswich and Mildenhall, and have done for many many years... So why make a statement like you did. ? Yes we all know the state of British speedway as it is. Isn't there enough negativity on here already ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 hours ago, BluPanther said: I would hardly call a shrinking league which is almost on its knees Progression. It's only a matter of time before it fails completely... Thing is it’s never been one leagues problem. You only need to look at the ever decreasing amount of 2nd tier teams to see my point. The problem has been the self centred nature of promoters and self interest of each league always working against each other. Speedway is in a terribly unviable state for people to become involved in, and this mostly starts from the head table causing some of these issues. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluTiger Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: So why make a statement like you did. ? Yes we all know the state of British speedway as it is. Isn't there enough negativity on here already ?? Just saying it as i see it matey .... Got to vent off sometimes you know 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 14 hours ago, montie said: Maybe,just maybe Mr Chapman can deliver to Boro what he has delivered to Lynn,and that is a period of stability and relative success He can never do that until he is able to substantially UP the average crowd. That is at the heart of speedway's problems regardless of who rides where and even who owns which club! A minimum 25% increase in new supporters is a "must" over the next two seasons. If things continue with a 10% loss each year of existing supporters, it's Game Over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted January 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) Shock horror Harris signs for Ipswich. So it wasn't financial at all then....... Tungate or NKI to Panthers then Edited January 23, 2019 by Flappy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 51 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: He can never do that until he is able to substantially UP the average crowd. That is at the heart of speedway's problems regardless of who rides where and even who owns which club! A minimum 25% increase in new supporters is a "must" over the next two seasons. If things continue with a 10% loss each year of existing supporters, it's Game Over. With this league i can see fans picking and choosing there meetings.At Swindon we generally get 1000 plus 12/1300 on a good day for the life of me how they can afford Doyley, Batch, Toby on those crowds god knows.But you are right if we cant encourage fresh blood to support the sport the longterm picture looks bleak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 55 minutes ago, Flappy said: Shock horror Harris signs for Ipswich. So it wasn't financial at all then....... Tungate or NKI to Panthers then It could have been a financial decision. It might have been the cost of employing the whole team that was the issue and someone had to go. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: It could have been a financial decision. It might have been the cost of employing the whole team that was the issue and someone had to go. The whole problem with that assumption is that a team suddenly appeared and an immediate look by those controlling the purse strings said that the sums didn't add up. However, it was a drip feed of signings and then a press release of a full 1-7 that was well received by fans. It then took a further month to then realise, allegedly, that the sums don't add up. Something else might have come out of the woodwork which did indeed need a financial decision but it can't be a surprise that few are buying it so to speak. Whatever the reason though, it's standard speedway of rubbish communications keeping the fire burning; being a big secret for the majority with a minority seemingly knowing more but never putting their head above the parapet then, shock horror, the whispers are confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, waytogo28 said: He can never do that until he is able to substantially UP the average crowd. That is at the heart of speedway's problems regardless of who rides where and even who owns which club! A minimum 25% increase in new supporters is a "must" over the next two seasons. If things continue with a 10% loss each year of existing supporters, it's Game Over. 100% correct in what you say,totally agree,but there is other ways of increasing income streams that can be fixed,not variable like bums on seats Maybe he can bring in other forms of income that will go towards the club being viable,add that to a team build to a budget and sticking to it I once looked at some bugets for Scunny and the fluctuations on gate reciepts,coupled with potential rain offs made doing budgets hard work,so we looked at fixed income streams,sponsorships,shared event payments,loan fees, corporate bookings etc and then went from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Crump99 said: The whole problem with that assumption is that a team suddenly appeared and an immediate look by those controlling the purse strings said that the sums didn't add up. However, it was a drip feed of signings and then a press release of a full 1-7 that was well received by fans. It then took a further month to then realise, allegedly, that the sums don't add up. Something else might have come out of the woodwork which did indeed need a financial decision but it can't be a surprise that few are buying it so to speak. Whatever the reason though, it's standard speedway of rubbish communications keeping the fire burning; being a big secret for the majority with a minority seemingly knowing more but never putting their head above the parapet then, shock horror, the whispers are confirmed. Is it possible the averages didn't add up and some riders didn't get the rider average discount they were expecting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, BlackPanther said: No. It's all about helping the Witches out. It's already been stated the reason was to cut the budget which is nothing but a sick joke as 4/5 week ago the team was given the green light . Then Buster muscles in and disrupts everything. That always going to be a problem when someone has the monopoly of 3 clubs and is also the BSPA chairman. Hardly independent is he . 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC71 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, New era Panthers said: It's already been stated the reason was to cut the budget which is nothing but a sick joke as 4/5 week ago the team was given the green light . Then Buster muscles in and disrupts everything. That always going to be a problem when someone has the monopoly of 3 clubs and is also the BSPA chairman. Hardly independent is he . Excuse my ignorance but who would decide as to whom is eligible for the 2.5% discount? Could the other 4 promoters have ganged up, said Harris rode 3rd tier too long ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, JC71 said: Excuse my ignorance but who would decide as to whom is eligible for the 2.5% discount? Could the other 4 promoters have ganged up, said Harris rode 3rd tier too long ago? Wash your mouth out with soapy water, how dare you even think such a thing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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