CoolPanther Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 I remember visiting Lynn when buster was celebrating some sort of anniversary, he went round on a tractor or similar, to rapturous applause and flag waving from the crowd. Have things changed or is he still received like that? 10 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: Oh Yes You Do! And even more than you would like to believe you do need to be. Just imagine if Buster won the Big Euromillions lottery and bought the blooming lot ( well the PL anyway ) he could pee off 97 1/2 % of the fans in that league. There are some at King's Lynn who do swear by ( not swear at ) the man and his methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneacat Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Badge said: As a witches supporter, I'm still in shock re buster buying the club, and in view the team Peterborough announced it had signed, I felt that our problems signing and announcing our team was because obviously Peterborough's budget was greater than ours. Now though I really feel for you all ( can't believe I'm saying that tbh) having your Hope's dashed after the feel good factor of you "knowing" your team. You have to wonder if our problem's signing and announcing our last 2 riders is similar. Change the last word of your last sentence in the post from similar to connected and you have your answer - don’t believe for one minute it’s finance related or Chris Harris is to blame! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Noodles said: If this is true it means Chapman was involved in Panthers team building from the start - therefore would have been involved in (or at least had knowledge of) the deal offered to Harris. It was what Bjerre said in the Speedway Star w/e 12 Jan. He said he was prepared to take a small pay cut but that there was no chance of him accepting what Chapman was offering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneacat Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Enjoy the ride under Buster's reign, your love for the club will dwindle under his ownership I have no doubt. Supporters are not in his thoughts as a business, you will just be a mugged off customer. Buster’s reign will be short lived - his ownership method may work in Kings Lynn (possibly Ipswich) but is not Peterborough Panthers Fans style. When the end comes and the Club closes for the final time the pain of losing it will be eased by the knowledge that it’s Buster losing money and not Ged. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, maneacat said: Buster’s reign will be short lived - his ownership method may work in Kings Lynn (possibly Ipswich) but is not Peterborough Panthers Fans style. When the end comes and the Club closes for the final time the pain of losing it will be eased by the knowledge that it’s Buster losing money and not Ged. . I think he would do well to sell up to the first possible offer even if he loses money , surely there must be someone out there that could be tempted into purchasing the club , otherwise I can see a rapid decline for the club and I would hate to see Buster owning the club more than one season . Whatever he does at Kings Lynn he's more than welcome to carry on , that's fine by me , we just don't want him at Peterborough . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: Just like the press releases from both Ipswich and Peterborough when he’d taken over both clubs. Think we know the game now. It’s sh!t, but we know the game. Going to be very interesting to see what the crowd levels are at the start, and throughout next season at both clubs Has all the makings of being disastrous this. I think you are partly right but many loyal supporters who are not forum members will turn up. Sad that single handedly and in such a short space of time he has managed to be so devisive and brought the sport into such disrepute yet being in charge he really could not give a fig. Lies, misleading stories, no public denials and staff silenced would appear to sum up his style. Sadly he appears to be less than a professional businessman and he lacks man management skills and his public persona does not endear anyone to him or his cause, look back at his interviews on TV. Unfortunately it is his money and he is calling the tune and the only way to get back at people like this is hit them in the pocket. That means boycotting meetings. Who is really going to do that? Supporters have a choice and can make stand but will they do it. Add to the unhealthy situation of one company owning three teams in one league in one part of the country and that is bad news for the future of the sport in this region. Add to this the monopoly known as the BSPA which needs breaking up and/or given a bloody nose says it all about the sad state the sport is in and the dire situation that speedway in East Anglia faces. Fans of all three clubs must be wondering what they have done to deserve the current situation. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Noodles said: If this is true it means Chapman was involved in Panthers team building from the start - therefore would have been involved in (or at least had knowledge of) the deal offered to Harris. Also seems odd that Cook ended up at Peterborough from Belle Vue for the same type of reason, or hes taken a good pay cut just to obtain a team spot with a PL team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just playing Devils' Advocate here without suggesting this is the case, but maybe Chris Harris asked for more money than was originally agreed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluTiger Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, KevH said: Just playing Devils' Advocate here without suggesting this is the case, but maybe Chris Harris asked for more money than was originally agreed? That's just another plausible scenario to throw in the ring, but i fear we will never know the truth which is par for the course in Speedway... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, KevH said: Just playing Devils' Advocate here without suggesting this is the case, but maybe Chris Harris asked for more money than was originally agreed? If he didn't agree with the money on offer then surely he would not have signed a contract in the first place 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, KevH said: Just playing Devils' Advocate here without suggesting this is the case, but maybe Chris Harris asked for more money than was originally agreed? We may never know.. I think Buster thinks he is doing the best to keep the Prem going. He has laid lots of money on the line (no one else would) when speedway in the UK is on it's @rse. He has taken a big risk. Do people really think he has bought Ippo and Boro to make himself thousands when no one else can..?? We don't know anything about the deals in place or budgets etc, so I think people should cut him a bit of slack for now. Edited January 20, 2019 by Bald Bloke 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, New era Panthers said: If he didn't agree with the money on offer then surely he would not have signed a contract in the first place Surely, that same reasoning should apply to the Peterborough promoters too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Whats your view and why Maneacat ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 I don't know what I'm discusted with most..the treatment of Harris or the lack of respect for the fans for not explaining it...either way I won't be buying a season ticket now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Chapman to Rathbone, November 2018: " I'll leave you to get on with signing the team up, just make sure you keep the costs tight. Chapman to Rathbone, January 2019; "JFC, Ged, I told you to keep the costs tight. You're going to have to reduce the wagebill by 20%. If you have to cut a heat leader I can take him to Ippo or Lynn but I won't be paying him the money you've agreed. You can have Tungate but you'll have to pay him a lot less than you've agreed with your other heat leaders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 The team looked way to expensive from the start. And signed up fast. I don't know what was agreed, but theres no way imho Buster would of agreed to a wage bill like that. I don't know what went on, but if, and it's a very big if Buster had agreed terms with all the riders, then it's a sham.But I can't see him giving the Panthers a much bigger budget than his King's Lynn or Ippo. This must of been thrashed out between Buster, Ippo and Boro before a rider was signed, surely? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Tungate is probably willing to ride for peanuts, he would do anything to stay away from Foxhole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, JeremyCorbynFan said: Tungate is probably willing to ride for peanuts, he would do anything to stay away from Foxhole. The Panthers with Tungate are still a very strong team. Averages don't lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluTiger Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: The team looked way to expensive from the start. And signed up fast. I don't know what was agreed, but theres no way imho Buster would of agreed to a wage bill like that. I don't know what went on, but if, and it's a very big if Buster had agreed terms with all the riders, then it's a sham.But I can't see him giving the Panthers a much bigger budget than his King's Lynn or Ippo. This must of been thrashed out between Buster, Ippo and Boro before a rider was signed, surely? Like what ? You have some figures for us ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BluPanther said: Like what ? You have some figures for us ? No. But just think for a minute....Buster has Lynn for 25+ years. He buys Ippo and Boro to keep the Prem going(big money risk). They didn't have to sell to him. It's cost him £££. Cookie is not cheap. Harris is not cheap. Hans can't be cheap.. I don't know what went on, but I find it hard to believe Buster agreed to pay big wages at Boro and less at his beloved Lynn and lesser to Ippo. I may be wrong..Are you right? Edited January 20, 2019 by Bald Bloke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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