tellboy Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Heard a rumour tonight that both Cook and Andersen are now in dispute over proposed changes to there contracts. Hope this isnt true as goodness knows whats next to come. Problem is as you say you heard a rumour.Unfortunately rumours escalate on here 10 fold.Sometimes rumours are best kept a secret until the truth is known.There is always people that like to spread things about even if they know they are untrue. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 My interest in the forthcoming season has totally gone, unlikely I will buy a season ticket and possibly will not go at all. Something strange going on over and above the serial shafting of the fans. Peterborough statement seems strange and wonder whether it comes from usual source and Neil Watson conspicuous by his lack of contribution. Have both he and Ged been Bustered as well as the fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: Bit like taking a payoff from another promotion to let a rider miss meetings..... Not really, but considering Chapman blew a gasket over that then he'll look a bit of an arse if overly involved in this cock up. I can't ever recall nobody taking responsiblity for Panthers issues but nobody cleary wants to be associated with this. We get a nameless press release and "A Panthers spokesperson said:" - I'd prefer Panthers supremo, at least that meant someone! Edited January 20, 2019 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, wealdstone said: My interest in the forthcoming season has totally gone, unlikely I will buy a season ticket and possibly will not go at all. Something strange going on over and above the serial shafting of the fans. Peterborough statement seems strange and wonder whether it comes from usual source and Neil Watson conspicuous by his lack of contribution. Have both he and Ged been Bustered as well as the fans? It's not that bad yet Rodders but needs sorting out with some leadership pdq before it really turns sour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, scoobydoo said: Heard a rumour tonight that both Cook and Andersen are now in dispute over proposed changes to there contracts. Hope this isnt true as goodness knows whats next to come. It could be just a rumour , who knows, best way to deal with this is for management to either confirm or deny it , saying nothing only fuels the fire and leads to more speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, New era Panthers said: It could be just a rumour , who knows, best way to deal with this is for management to either confirm or deny it , saying nothing only fuels the fire and leads to more speculation. If it's Chapman pulling the strings, you will hear absolutely nothing. Looks to me that the Boro and Harris statements were both penned by the same person, whoever that may be... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 38 minutes ago, wealdstone said: My interest in the forthcoming season has totally gone, unlikely I will buy a season ticket and possibly will not go at all. Something strange going on over and above the serial shafting of the fans. Peterborough statement seems strange and wonder whether it comes from usual source and Neil Watson conspicuous by his lack of contribution. Have both he and Ged been Bustered as well as the fans? Ged has sold out and his sidekick Neil has also been silenced otherwise they may have made it known and the supporters have been sold out by this total farce , which I find dishonest and corrupt and I understand how you are feeling as well as most other Panthers fans will also. Promoters all over the country are wondering why supporters are dwindling away, well this is a perfect example why, but they will carry on just the same, expect you to turn up and pay your entrance fee as if nothing is wrong, then when they count the gate receipts, they will be pleading for fans to come and support as they are losing money .Laying everything at the door of the fans and not a thought about previous actions they have made having anything to do with this. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesR Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 7 hours ago, New era Panthers said: Ged has sold out and his sidekick Neil has also been silenced otherwise they may have made it known and the supporters have been sold out by this total farce , which I find dishonest and corrupt and I understand how you are feeling as well as most other Panthers fans will. What a mess this is turning out to be. You have the Official Peterborough Speedway website advertising 2019 Season Tickets with it's full team of 7 riders advertised. Anyone buying these can do so by BACS to a Lloyds bank account or by cheque, to a Middlesborough address for the Peterborough Speedway Office, payable to Peterborough Panthers Speedway. You have a newly incorporated company, on the 16th November 2018, called Peterborough Speedway Limited with Keith & Cheryl Chapman as the only Directors, with a Downham Market, Norfolk address. Finally you have a changed team line up from that advertised to tempt you to buy a season ticket. I find that no better than internet scams where the advertised products don't turn into reality. Somewhere along the line someone must be the guilty party in this. So for those wanting to cancel their season ticket for a refund, which company refunds the money? Is it Peterborough Panthers Speedway or Peterborough Speedway Limited? I know that I wouldn't buy a season ticket from most of the promotions that are now running speedway 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Things are better sorted now than going bust during the season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Trees said: Things are better sorted now than going bust during the season? True if sorted out, but the Buster model seems to be like it or lump it. Time for Ged and Neil to give us some guidance as to what the hell is going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, wealdstone said: True if sorted out, but the Buster model seems to be like it or lump it. Time for Ged and Neil to give us some guidance as to what the hell is going on Is Neil still now involved? He’s normally very active on here but since the takeover was “completed” he’s been conspicuous by his absence. Coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 9 hours ago, tellboy said: Problem is as you say you heard a rumour.Unfortunately rumours escalate on here 10 fold.Sometimes rumours are best kept a secret until the truth is known.There is always people that like to spread things about even if they know they are untrue. This forum, especially during the winter, is fuelled by rumour and speculation. Both are fair game and indeed often provide an important opening for interesting debate However I agree some topics are best kept private I was aware of isues with the Panthers heat leader deals being signed off in mid December but felt it was too sensitive an issue to raise on here at that time from just hearsay. I actually thought it most likely it would all blow over and come to nothing I dont think there are many on here that spread deliberate untruths. Usually there is some base substance even to the strangest rumour but situations are complex and develop and the final details presented publically will be 'the party line' regardless of what actually went on.That in itself is not wrong as rightly some things are private Before the rise of social media of course it would only be this final version that 99% got to see 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Trees said: Things are better sorted now than going bust during the season? Better sorted before you put out a press release with your team for the coming season I think. Cowboy operations and communications will fail irrespective of the timing. We've had plenty of experience of that. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Crump99 said: Better sorted before you put out a press release with your team for the coming season I think. Cowboy operations and communications will fail irrespective of the timing. We've had plenty of experience of that. It may be another Workington type situation where funds were promised but then reneged upon, I don't know. Yes of course what you say is true but something has changed and best to put it right now if poss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, Trees said: It may be another Workington type situation where funds were promised but then reneged upon, I don't know. Yes of course what you say is true but something has changed and best to put it right now if poss? What has changed is that Chapman has got his grubby hands on three clubs now in a league of seven, and i want no part of it ... 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolPanther Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) It no longer feels like "our" club, just "his" , if you are inclined to go along and pay your money to him, he will take it, I love the sport but don't feel at the moment inclined to hand over my hard earnt to Mr Chapman, I will make my mind up over the coming weeks. Edited January 20, 2019 by CoolPanther Spelling 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Trees said: It may be another Workington type situation where funds were promised but then reneged upon, I don't know. Yes of course what you say is true but something has changed and best to put it right now if poss? True. The problem being of course that the situation was always going to be a dogs' dinner and nobody is surprised. As we know, there will be no transparency or effective communications around this that the paying public will believe, so rather than put it right it'll no doubt be some sort of fudge and kicking the can down the road which is very topical at the moment. Edited January 20, 2019 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Enjoy the ride under Buster's reign, your love for the club will dwindle under his ownership I have no doubt. Supporters are not in his thoughts as a business, you will just be a mugged off customer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 The problem is that you need to use it or run the risk of losing it - that's the standard line. It is actions like this that drive more fans away from a sport that is "dying on its @rse". So rather than encourage new fans they p!ss off existing fans - not a great business model 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 In Peterboroughs case anyone running it has to use it, as stop and it gone for good but sticking two fingers up to the ones who are required to keep the use going is sheer madness especially after investing money in it, Up until a few days ago many were looking forward to or thinking of returning to attending meetings now it looks like its another nail is being hammered in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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