Peterborough Panthers 2019

[PE7Panther]

On 12/10/2018 at 2:17 PM, New era Panthers said:

Yes i'm  well impressed  with the top 3 in place and with the other 4 yet to be named  , things are looking good. Just hope crowds are good for Thursday night racing and we can get back to being an established top flight club again . It would also be good if we could get most of those who deserted the club when they left after dropping down a league to return and see what is on offer at the showground . If fans want it to succeed then they need to show up , the foundations have been laid now it's down to supporters to show they really want top flight speedway.

I'm confident that crowds will be bigger next season.  I know a couple of fans who used to be regulars in the EL, but had gradually attended less and less since Panthers dropped down - but they're already talking enthusiastically about next season.  And that's just me; I'm sure plenty of other Panthers fans could report a similar story.  Anyway, nobody will be going less often, surely?!  

One positive aspect of next season's line-up is that most of the riders (assuming it comprises the 7 we're expecting) have some sort of history with Panthers.  Ged could have brought in 7 riders who are totally new to the club; it could well have been successful and we'd all be delighted.  But then it's like supporting a team of strangers, speedway mercenaries.  I know that's the nature of speedway, but I'm really glad that the first three signings are not only top riders, they also give us a certain feeling of being "our boys".  Same goes for  Bradley W-D and Paul Starke.  Even Ben Barker to a lesser extent.  Then, if the rumours are correct, it'd just leave ChasW as a "new" boy.  The fact that the management team is still Ged, Neil & Carl only adds to the feelgood factor, imho. 

And I can't wait for the new season!   

    

 

[PE7Panther]

28 minutes ago, wealdstone said:

Hopefully those that left when Panthers relegated themselves will return.

I'm sure many will 

Edited December 11, 2018 by PE7Panther

[proud panther]

1 hour ago, wealdstone said:

Hopefully those that left when Panthers relegated themselves will return.

We need 20% of the fans that attended the 2006 play off final, then dissapeared to return, then it would be happy days !!

[bruno]

Looks a good team for the Panthers however just imagine if a Polish team had Harris, Cook and Anderson , sadly shows the gulf between the league's i suppose

[STEVEHOLS54]

2 hours ago, bruno said:

Looks a good team for the Panthers however just imagine if a Polish team had Harris, Cook and Anderson , sadly shows the gulf between the league's i suppose

Look at it like this.

No POL team wants Cook or Harris. Anderson now only good enough for POL Nice 1 and not POL EXL and think I heard that his team may not even have a licence to race next year due to some issues. Nothing like those facing the team that Hancock/Morris & Becker ride for who seem to have a boss who has commited some nasties in not paying riders of the team - plus an individual Tournament and also for a car they purchased that was given as a prize. They paid 1/2 payments and then stopped. News on them looks pretty bleak according to the main POL Speedway site https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/i-liga/statystyki/2018  Check the recent headlines on right hand site of the web page. Mentions Anderson's team and some stadium payment issues as well as the various Hancock team issues which look more serious.

[moorelsm]

Interesting to Norbi still riding so well, higher average than the likes of Robert Lambert and Troy Batchelor...

 

[Flappy]

1 hour ago, moorelsm said:

Interesting to Norbi still riding so well, higher average than the likes of Robert Lambert and Troy Batchelor...

 

No thanks 

[ArthurRudge]

7 hours ago, PE7Panther said:

I'm confident that crowds will be bigger next season.  I know a couple of fans who used to be regulars in the EL, but had gradually attended less and less since Panthers dropped down - but they're already talking enthusiastically about next season.  And that's just me; I'm sure plenty of other Panthers fans could report a similar story.  Anyway, nobody will be going less often, surely?!  

One positive aspect of next season's line-up is that most of the riders (assuming it comprises the 7 we're expecting) have some sort of history with Panthers.  Ged could have brought in 7 riders who are totally new to the club; it could well have been successful and we'd all be delighted.  But then it's like supporting a team of strangers, speedway mercenaries.  I know that's the nature of speedway, but I'm really glad that the first three signings are not only top riders, they also give us a certain feeling of being "our boys".  Same goes for  Bradley W-D and Paul Starke.  Even Ben Barker to a lesser extent.  Then, if the rumours are correct, it'd just leave ChasW as a "new" boy.  The fact that the management team is still Ged, Neil & Carl only adds to the feelgood factor, imho. 

And I can't wait for the new season!   

    

 

Nice to read its refreshing someone posting enthusiastically rather than doom and gloom  

[acef]

5 hours ago, bruno said:

Looks a good team for the Panthers however just imagine if a Polish team had Harris, Cook and Anderson , sadly shows the gulf between the league's i suppose

 

Yoyr absolutely right about the gulf but I don’t think it’s the right point to emphasise it, because I think this Peterborough team is vastly over rated. It’s a reasonable top 3, nothing more. They will struggle in the bigger races.

[BluPanther]

3 minutes ago, acef said:

 

Yoyr absolutely right about the gulf but I don’t think it’s the right point to emphasise it, because I think this Peterborough team is vastly over rated. It’s a reasonable top 3, nothing more. They will struggle in the bigger races.

We'll come back to that after Hans and Cookie have slammed in a match winning 5-1 at the National Stadium next season  

[PE7Panther]

4 hours ago, ArthurRudge said:

Nice to read its refreshing someone posting enthusiastically rather than doom and gloom  

[PE7Panther]

4 hours ago, acef said:

 

Yoyr absolutely right about the gulf but I don’t think it’s the right point to emphasise it, because I think this Peterborough team is vastly over rated. It’s a reasonable top 3, nothing more. They will struggle in the bigger races.

Well, I guess everybody's entitled to their opinion but, with only 3 riders announced so far, surely it's a bit early to be writing a team off.   We had similar bollox before the start of last season with some people rubbishing Panthers' chances before a wheel had been turned......  and who finished top o' the league?  

Just saying like   

 

Edited December 12, 2018 by PE7Panther

[acef]

7 hours ago, PE7Panther said:

Well, I guess everybody's entitled to their opinion but, with only 3 riders announced so far, surely it's a bit early to be writing a team off.   We had similar bollox before the start of last season with some people rubbishing Panthers' chances before a wheel had been turned......  and who finished top o' the league?  

Just saying like   

 

You know who your 7 riders are.

The top 3 are distinctly average. 

[acef]

11 hours ago, BluPanther said:

We'll come back to that after Hans and Cookie have slammed in a match winning 5-1 at the National Stadium next season  

Against Fricke and Bjerre? Not a chance. It’s an absolute no brainer of a choice. 2 riders who ride in the top polish league vs a washed up former gp rider in hans, and one who tried and failed and can’t get even get a ride overseas.

Its literally not even a debate.

Edited December 12, 2018 by acef

[SteveLyric2]

12 hours ago, BluPanther said:

We'll come back to that after Hans and Cookie have slammed in a match winning 5-1 at the National Stadium next season  

'Rolling, rolling, rolling. Keep those dawgies rolling.'!!

[New era Panthers]

1 hour ago, acef said:

Against Fricke and Bjerre? Not a chance. It’s an absolute no brainer of a choice. 2 riders who ride in the top polish league vs a washed up former gp rider in hans, and one who tried and failed and can’t get even get a ride overseas.

Its literally not even a debate.

Referring to Cook I, I find your statement amazing considering most of your supporters are gutted that he's not back at the NSS , it sounds a bit like sour grapes to me .

Edited December 12, 2018 by New era Panthers

[TBC]

I hear another rider is not coming to the show ground next year because of the restrictions in the contract

Not allowing  a rider to have his own personal sponsors on his bike covers is wrong 

I just hope Buster enjoys his big kickback from the BT deal

[acef]

2 hours ago, New era Panthers said:

Referring to Cook I, I find your statement amazing considering most of your supporters are gutted that he's not back at the NSS , it sounds a bit like sour grapes to me .

You can count me in the minority. It most certainly isn’t sour grapes.

I am a fan of Craig’s commitment but that’s where it ends. Bjerre on a lower average is a much better rider than Craig and it was absolutely the correct decision. Craig is a nearly man. Nearly does a lot of things but never quite gets it in full. He’s a 3rd HL in this league. The time was right. 

I’m not entirely sure why bv supporters are gutted tbh. They get lost in the euphoria of his passion and commitment but forget that he’s a distinctively average rider who thinks he’s better than he is.

Peterboro will not have a number 1 in that team. Cook and Harris were 1 and 5 for Glasgow in a division lower last season. Andersen is half decent but he is no number 1 anymore. Like Craig, a 2nd to 3rd HL. Harris imo is done at the highest level. He’s a 2nd string.

 

Edited December 12, 2018 by acef

[Sully]

27 minutes ago, acef said:

You can count me in the minority. It most certainly isn’t sour grapes.

I am a fan of Craig’s commitment but that’s where it ends. Bjerre on a lower average is a much better rider than Craig and it was absolutely the correct decision. Craig is a nearly man. Nearly does a lot of things but never quite gets it in full. He’s a 3rd HL in this league. The time was right. 

I’m not entirely sure why bv supporters are gutted tbh. They get lost in the euphoria of his passion and commitment but forget that he’s a distinctively average rider who thinks he’s better than he is.

Peterboro will not have a number 1 in that team. Cook and Harris were 1 and 5 for Glasgow in a division lower last season. Andersen is half decent but he is no number 1 anymore. Like Craig, a 2nd to 3rd HL. Harris imo is done at the highest level. He’s a 2nd string.

 

Name all the other heat leaders that are better than Peterborough’s? They may not be a Number 1 when compared to Doyle but there aren’t many of those heat leaders left in this country. 

Weve seen enough of Bjerre to know he goes missing at the business end of the season. 

Edited December 12, 2018 by Sully

[acef]

2 minutes ago, Sully said:

Name all the other heat leaders that are better than Peterborough’s? They may not be a Number 1 when compared to Doyle but there aren’t many of those heat leaders left in this country. 

Weve seen enough of Bjerre to know he goes missing at the business end of the season. 

 

Max Fricke.

Robert Lambert.

Kenneth Bjerre

Jason Doyle

Troy Batchelor

NKI

Tobias Museliak 

Brady Kurtz

Jack Holder

I can go on if you wish. All those are either currently better or will become better.

As for Bjerre, your statement simply isn’t true. Have a look at scores in the play offs for bv in 17 and compare to cook. Nice little example for you there.