Trees Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, wealdstone said: As with most things Speedway we will never know the truth. Subterfuge and deviousness are the norm even when being up front is the best way. Neil Watson told me that he and Ged were to carry on as promoters and I do not believe he would tell me an out right lie. Ged told me that the team he put together was done so very cheaply and I believe that as well. He has been naïve in the extreme to put his faith in those he should not have. He also told me that he regretted selling the club. As regards the veracity of the new owners they sat at a fans forum knowing full well there was a problem with Cook but chose to pretend all was well. Were they hoping that Cookie would have a change of heart last minute? Wonder if he wishes he had with his lack of racing now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorelsm Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Flappy said: The Cook and Harris situations stink that cannot be denied. The lack of a replacement for Cook is worse as it's cheating the paying public. Especially to those who had bought Season Tickets on the strength of the team at that time 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, PBK said: Crikey who would want to own a speedway club !more negative than positive from Fans ! Why bother going if its all just moani about the owners the track .the weather. the world. jesus!! Seemed to be totally the opposite over the last two or 3 years (as a 2 poster newbie you probably never noticed) so you probably need to think about what's changed/happened and reflect on that. It's a fair point you make but there is a bit more to it than that isn't there? Edited May 2, 2019 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 3 hours ago, hans fan said: Harris going Ipswich isn't a problem in my eyes panthers have a better rider in tungate biggest problem they've got was having a consistent heat winner in cook and ending up with another reserve .i can understand why carl says what he does but I haven't heard anybody say they believe him .its not as though he's gonna say buster is taking the p155 I wouldn't be having a team 3pts under limit if it was up to me Harris is superb to watch on his day..to me he epitomises what speedway is all about..I was gutted when we "released" him...and this was when positive turned to negative... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneacat Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 3 hours ago, PBK said: Crikey who would want to own a speedway club !more negative than positive from Fans ! Why bother going if its all just moani about the owners the track .the weather. the world. jesus!! You are spot on there about “going” - a lot won’t bother shortly - you can forget 2500 crowds (apart from possibly Stars visits) because the moans on here are a spit in the ocean to what is being said in the grandstand and face to face amongst Panthers fans. It’s not a case of “IF” but “WHEN” crowds fall 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Crump99 said: Allegedly! So you're not in possession of the facts but you use it to justify your argument anyway. 12 hours ago, Crump99 said: But surely if you care about the club and fans (and selling up wasn't as reported a necessity) as stated then given the problems we've had since Frost 2010 to Holdergate then surely that raised some alarm bells of what might follow? If Rathbone chose an unkown without a known history then I'd agree what you say. Is that the same Holdergate I mentioned "allegedly" and you shot me down for using it without possession of the facts to justify an argument.. Haven't you just done the same? Or do you know the facts and it did happen Edited May 2, 2019 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 44 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Is that the same Holdergate I mentioned "allegedly" and you shot me down for using it without possession of the facts to justify an argument.. Haven't you just done the same? Or do you know the facts and it did happen Not really, you were more pointed and I can't recall if the specifics of the transaction are out there, perhaps they are. I was talking generally about the case and the actions and reactions of individuals for which there is evidence in the public domain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Seem to recall that Ged never denied taking the money The dispute was rather over his punishment and whether it was just given he appeared to have been cleared to take it from the required authorities 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Crump99 said: Not really, you were more pointed and I can't recall if the specifics of the transaction are out there, perhaps they are. I was talking generally about the case and the actions and reactions of individuals for which there is evidence in the public domain. That's why I used the word alleged It was talked about on here. Holder did miss a few Panthers meetings to ride in Poland, when you had priority. It was said on here by some that Rathbone was compensated. I don't know for sure, but I doubt he would of ripped the fans off for no reward. Again "alleged" covers it, I think.. The what if Buster did that part was just hypothetical. Most wish Rathbone was still there, and seem to be on Busters case for trying. If Buster had done that with Jack there would be uproar.Thats what I was getting at. I think Buster is being treaded harshly at this stage for trying, that's all. Not saying he is always right BTW. We all have opinions, that's what a forum is all about at the end of the day I'll leave it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 If they had replaced Cook properly with the points available before May 1st it would have showed some positive intent. As things stand i fancy Boro will possibly be competing with Lynn and Ippo for the wooden spoon... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 When one person owns 43% of The Teams in The League it’s a decent bet that one will finish bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 6 hours ago, maneacat said: You are spot on there about “going” - a lot won’t bother shortly - you can forget 2500 crowds (apart from possibly Stars visits) because the moans on here are a spit in the ocean to what is being said in the grandstand and face to face amongst Panthers fans. It’s not a case of “IF” but “WHEN” crowds fall Buster must be rubbing his hands at minute with how many are turning up Won't be long before he's wiping the tears when 1 man and his dog turn up. Expect we'll be hearing the same old tosh then 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 6 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Seem to recall that Ged never denied taking the money The dispute was rather over his punishment and whether it was just given he appeared to have been cleared to take it from the required authorities That's true. Just got up to speed with the story again - apologies BB. Cleared to break the rules and take the minor hit was the advice from the no2 that caused the no1 to blow a gasket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All4back Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 7 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Seem to recall that Ged never denied taking the money The dispute was rather over his punishment and whether it was just given he appeared to have been cleared to take it from the required authorities Punishment greatly reduced on appeal, with the help of a legal team supplied by T. Balfe #drawyourownconclusions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 My recollection is that Ged had records of his conversation with the deputy boss of bosses which supported Geds version of events. Subsequently the Lincolnshire man was let off by his peers as he only did and said what he did for the good of Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 How has Lasse Bjerre green sheet average gone up 1.42 from 4.72 to 6.14! He has scored 7 from 4, 3 from 4 and 1 from 3 in league meetings. Moved up to 3rd in averages so Peterborough stronger without him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Rob B said: How has Lasse Bjerre green sheet average gone up 1.42 from 4.72 to 6.14! He has scored 7 from 4, 3 from 4 and 1 from 3 in league meetings. Moved up to 3rd in averages so Peterborough stronger without him now. Neil Watson has said it's something to do with his rolling average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Rob B said: How has Lasse Bjerre green sheet average gone up 1.42 from 4.72 to 6.14! He has scored 7 from 4, 3 from 4 and 1 from 3 in league meetings. Moved up to 3rd in averages so Peterborough stronger without him now. His 2017 Prem meetings are now again included in his rolling average whereas his starting figure was only his converted 2018 Championship as he didnt ride in the Prem in 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Bjerre is struggling at present as a Championship heat leader riding at 3, his scores have been average at best, he should of started at reserve for Peterborough was thrust into a second string role with the Cook issue, now having struggled in that spot finds himself as third in the averages all on the back of his scores two years ago this can only happen in speedway and its wacky ways with averages 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/1/2019 at 11:45 PM, New era Panthers said: . Chapman is a total numpty and I hope he gets his fingers burnt, sad thing is if your wish of Chapman getting his fingers burnt comes true,then its highly likely that the Mighty panthers will be gone forever sometimes you have to be becarefull what you wish for 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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