Gasser90 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 I’m pretty sure Peterborough speedway own the wooden fence, hence why buster has said he is going to re build some/all of it in the off season. As much as people dislike him. Without him we wouldn’t be seeing any speedway at Peterborough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, Gasser90 said: I’m pretty sure Peterborough speedway own the wooden fence, hence why buster has said he is going to re build some/all of it in the off season. As much as people dislike him. Without him we wouldn’t be seeing any speedway at Peterborough Not sure this is actually true as Ged after many changes of heart had said that he would run Panthers in Premier League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 Didn't the showground pay for the lights to be moved when it was deemed they were far to close to the fence, i think it was after Craig Featherby was killed in a track crash at the showground, i know the new lights came from Hackney/London who paid for them and to be erected also In years gone by the track or "main ring" was used for many other events especially during the east of england show, the fence has always been there since i first went in 1972 but when you take into consideration the pits it does seem logical to belong to the speedway as a fixture and fitting was it not also painted by volunteers with paint supplied by contraband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 I see the panthers have yet another new fruitcake,,, and spurs fan,,,, well we never. Ain't said nothing all summer, now won't shut up, whilst another version of him has gone missing. Same mo Everytime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Baldyman said: I see the panthers have yet another new fruitcake,,, and spurs fan,,,, well we never. Ain't said nothing all summer, now won't shut up, whilst another version of him has gone missing. Same mo Everytime. Most Spurs fans are fruitcakes in my experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, foreverblue said: Most Spurs fans are fruitcakes in my experience. I'm offended by that comment. I'm normal, realistic and permanently disappointed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, foreverblue said: Most Spurs fans are fruitcakes in my experience. Wouldn't have a clue, football is not something I have any interest in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, scoobydoo said: Didn't the showground pay for the lights to be moved when it was deemed they were far to close to the fence, i think it was after Craig Featherby was killed in a track crash at the showground, i know the new lights came from Hackney/London who paid for them and to be erected also In years gone by the track or "main ring" was used for many other events especially during the east of england show, the fence has always been there since i first went in 1972 but when you take into consideration the pits it does seem logical to belong to the speedway as a fixture and fitting was it not also painted by volunteers with paint supplied by contraband Current floodlights were installed by the speedway club. They ran a season long raffle to raise funds with Jason Crump's race suit being the top prize. 1999? Edited September 10, 2019 by Noodles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, thecoombdog said: I'm offended by that comment. I'm normal, realistic and permanently disappointed! I thought you were a reasonably intelligent human being too. Ah well that's another preconception dashed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, geoff58 said: childish comment oh don't forget we are in a final you won't be !! You deserve all you get after trapping off earlier in the season. Several people told you Belle Vue wouldn’t finish in the top four and so it proved. Might be worth being a little more humble next time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 11 hours ago, Baldyman said: I see the panthers have yet another new fruitcake,,, and spurs fan,,,, well we never. Ain't said nothing all summer, now won't shut up, whilst another version of him has gone missing. Same mo Everytime. And he won’t disappear until people learn to completely ignore him and his posts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Honestly Time for one league; make the second division a true second league rather than a pseudo premiership; make the multiplier 3 for doubling up/down riders and no one in the top league with an average above 4 in the preceding season to be available for doubling up/down the next and reset this each year then you will have enough riders to go around; meaning anyone achieving a top league average of 4.01 or more can not race in the second tier the following season until their average comes back down to 4.00 or lower. Back in the day (sorry to hark back) the likes of Tom Owen and Joe Owen were 6 and 7 at Hull yet top riders in the second tier, then when Joe kicked on he stayed in the top league, Tom came back down. Carl Stonehewer was another who was in this position. Over 40 plus riders used from the 2nd tier this year doubling up and still over 30 in there now and teams with six championship riders and one high profile name in them so for all intents and purposes a championship side. (its a joke really) Especially when there are only 7 teams in the top league meaning they only require 49 riders... The current sides in the Championship should have the option to come up or stay in a reformed league 2 made up from current NDL sides and anyone who does not want to go up in to the top tier with a far stricter rule for doubling up/down. Get the young kids starting out as the key doubling up riders those who are 2nd strings at best but usually starting out in the reserve positions. The gap between the top two leagues is blurred to say the least. We can't compete with the wages in Poland so we struggle to attract the top riders for the top league although we do see some very good competitive racing in both leagues with the guys we have; however we need to concentrate on our own leagues and what will work in this country with what we have available and stuff anyone else; The NDL and junior leagues should be just that for developing junior riders IMHO and the issue is; there isn't currently enough clarity between the top two leagues and riders are driving the terms and conditions (especially the ones doubling up) rather than the promoters and teams setting up the structures that support the sides in the league they are in rather than the riders. Workington gone, Berwick Edinburgh Newcastle Sheffield and Redcar must all be feeling the pinch because having been to all these venues this season the crowds have looked down on previous years visits (although Scunthorpe's crowd looked healthier than I have ever seen it?). Time for radical changes not tinkering around the edges But its always been the same and I cant seeing it changing if I am totally honest Regards THJ All clear and obvious points and opportunities.. But as you say, no chance of anything changing... I do actually think that they probably do realise that their operating model and business plan is crap, but, bless them, they are simply incapable of doing anything about it to radically develop the sport... Hence we will have the same old, same old next season, and the season after, and the season after etc etc, until it all eventually becomes not worth doing as one by one the tracks disappear.. It has simply two clear options.. One. To do a 'Poland' and go balls out to attract the best in the hope fans will come back to the sport. (personally not a chance in hell they could deliver this).. Or Two. Set clear demarcation between two leagues where reaching the highest level is aspirational, with one being a mix of a few professional (but in the main), semi professional competitors, and the other being very much a development league to help supply the top tier over the long term. With all meetings ran when punters can get there not around when riders can fit it in their non UK schedule.. To keep doing the same thing again though surely isn't an option even to those currently doing it? Edited September 11, 2019 by mikebv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasser90 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 12 hours ago, Baldyman said: I see the panthers have yet another new fruitcake,,, and spurs fan,,,, well we never. Ain't said nothing all summer, now won't shut up, whilst another version of him has gone missing. Same mo Everytime. If this is aimed at me you can think of me what you like, I’m only saying what has been said to a group of us that watch the speedway from the pits, along with people who have an input into running the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, mikebv said: Or Two. Set clear demarcation between two leagues where reaching the highest level is aspirational, with one being a mix of a few professional (but in the main), semi professional competitors, and the other being very much a development league to help supply the top tier over the long term. With all meetings ran when punters can get there not around when riders can fit it in their non UK schedule.. To keep doing the same thing again surely isn't an option even to those currently doing it? Sadly it is THE most easily embraced option for the BSPA whilst "led" by someone who believes he ( they inc. the Deputy ) "have got it right". As you say what will happen is the same old, same old ( or very close to it ) will be served up as being the way forward and tracks will slowly go out of business a few at a time. UK speedway will not exist as a professional sport by the time it's centenary rolls around. Only your proposition Two can be the real way forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 16 hours ago, scoobydoo said: Didn't the showground pay for the lights to be moved when it was deemed they were far to close to the fence, i think it was after Craig Featherby was killed in a track crash at the showground, i know the new lights came from Hackney/London who paid for them and to be erected also In years gone by the track or "main ring" was used for many other events especially during the east of england show, the fence has always been there since i first went in 1972 but when you take into consideration the pits it does seem logical to belong to the speedway as a fixture and fitting was it not also painted by volunteers with paint supplied by contraband As I recall, following the sad death of Craig Featherby the original floodlights and stop lights were moved back from the fence. That was some years before the new floodlights were installed, which I believe was to meet FIM regulations ready for the World Cup/ World U21 at the beginning of the 2000s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 16 hours ago, Baldyman said: Wouldn't have a clue, football is not something I have any interest in Definition of a Spurs fan - COYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, NeilWatson said: As I recall, following the sad death of Craig Featherby the original floodlights and stop lights were moved back from the fence. That was some years before the new floodlights were installed, which I believe was to meet FIM regulations ready for the World Cup/ World U21 at the beginning of the 2000s. I wasnt actually saying they were at the sametime just using both as an example of an individual expence for Speedway fixtures and fittings, maybe the speedway owners did provide everything required for the speedway including fence,pits and lights. Cant see Buster paying out to replace the fence when the clubs currently losing money Edited September 11, 2019 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Crump99 said: Definition of a Spurs fan - COYS Yid Army Edited September 11, 2019 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Yid Army Despite the belief that Spurs are a Jewish club . they are no more Jewish than Arsenal or Chelsea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytiger Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Thought this was a Speedway Forum, why are you including Football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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