wtf Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Aces51 said: Was the problem with the track that Chapman had done what he does at Kings Lynn and made it too grippy? We know from experience at the NSS that with the current bikes a grippy track produces fast but processional racing. That is why the NSS is not prepared that way and why it produces the excellent racing we are privileged to witness. No the track wasn't too grippy, it was the smoothest and most consistent it has been for many years and as such produced racing where very few mistakes were made. The problem for Panthers was that Belle Vue had a very good top two who got out the starts better and were not going to be caught easily from there. The starts were a bit different from press and practise so the home riders had to adapt a bit more there, but generally Belle vue were better from the start and didn't make mistakes. If Lasse had scored 4 point panthers would have won the meeting, but hey don't let that stop the doom and gloom merchants from predicting the end of the world. They are a heat leader and 3 points short, which is a shame because Charles will score like a heat leader at home all year, and coming from 2nd string that's where the strength is. Over the next few weeks I reckon Panthers will look for a permanent replacement at heatleader. During this time they can have a look at the bottom 3 and see who is performing best 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwright71 Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, KIRKYLANE said: I always used to rate King's Lynn in my top 3 tracks re GB. However in recent years the racing has seriously deteriorated to such an extent that I cannot be bothered going there anymore. Five me good racing and I do not mind how far the track is, I will go Sums up speedways decline in a nutshell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, geoff58 said: think you forgot to add on what a normal fit bewley would have scored ? and a bad night for wells like bjerre so really you wouldn't have won !! Lots of ifs and maybe,s at this time of the season but Championships are won at the end of the season not April. A long long way to go and I dare say many changes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Aces51 said: Was the problem with the track that Chapman had done what he does at Kings Lynn and made it too grippy? We know from experience at the NSS that with the current bikes a grippy track produces fast but processional racing. That is why the NSS is not prepared that way and why it produces the excellent racing we are privileged to witness. Lynn is too grippy because of stock car shale. No stocks at Peterborough so they have proper dirt. Opening meetings are rarely the best barometer for quality of racing especially if one team has plenty of heat wins and several lasts too. They are generally for getting back into the swing of things and ridding both man and machine of cobwebs. If the speedway is still processional after a few more meetings then there may well be other questions to be asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Chapman saying we are 1 rider short is hardly rocket science. Don't release a rider 5 days before the season starts !!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 On 2 April 2019 at 12:39 PM, IronScorpion said: It is/was to eliminate doubling up in our leagues but we now have Sweden, main race night Tuesday, racing on Thursdays & in Poland(even last year), main race day Sunday, racing on Fridays & Saturdays. We know where the riders will be, where the money is! What's the going rate paid to a team for letting their riders miss a scheduled British meeting? Wasnt it reported that a team got circa £20k from a Polish team a while back? If that was true, I would be amazed if winning any domestic competition in the UK would win you (or bring in through increased support) anywhere near that amount, so well worth from a business perspective coming to the odd agreement I am sure.. Go a long way to paying off some bills would that... And the die hard fans, (who make up the vast majority of a speedway teams fan base) will turn up anyway so no real loss of revenue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) Geds team was good ,this one isn't. Who is to blame it is not our place to know as the mere paying public. We must make do with platitudes from those more exalted than us. Edited April 3, 2019 by wealdstone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, wealdstone said: Geds team was good ,this one isn't. Who is to blame it is not our place to know as the mere paying public. We must make do with platitudes from those more exalted than us. You was warned weeks ago about the situation. Ged was selling the club regardless. Buster was the only one to come forward and Ged sold to him. Ged signed the rider's on HIS budget but was warned by Buster that the only way Ged was keeping that team is if he could find another buyer or sponsors who could budget the team. None was found, Buster took control and rider's had to play ball within his budget or leave. Harris and Cook have chosen to leave. All in all, the blame really is with Ged for over budgeting the septet and lying to the fans. We even had Watson on here saying it was nonsense then exactly the above happened. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: You was warned weeks ago about the situation. Ged was selling the club regardless. Buster was the only one to come forward and Ged sold to him. Ged signed the rider's on HIS budget but was warned by Buster that the only way Ged was keeping that team is if he could find another buyer or sponsors who could budget the team. None was found, Buster took control and rider's had to play ball within his budget or leave. Harris and Cook have chosen to leave. All in all, the blame really is with Ged for over budgeting the septet and lying to the fans. We even had Watson on here saying it was nonsense then exactly the above happened. Not what Ged told me!!!!!!. If what you say is other than conjecture I accept what you say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: You was warned weeks ago about the situation. Ged was selling the club regardless. Buster was the only one to come forward and Ged sold to him. Ged signed the rider's on HIS budget but was warned by Buster that the only way Ged was keeping that team is if he could find another buyer or sponsors who could budget the team. None was found, Buster took control and rider's had to play ball within his budget or leave. Harris and Cook have chosen to leave. All in all, the blame really is with Ged for over budgeting the septet and lying to the fans. We even had Watson on here saying it was nonsense then exactly the above happened. This is all nonsense, as it was when it was raised before. 6 minutes ago, wealdstone said: Not what Ged told me!!!!!!. If what you say is other than conjecture I accept what you say Ged’s account was correct, the first post above is not. Edited April 3, 2019 by NeilWatson Typo 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, NeilWatson said: This is nonsense, as it was when raised before. Ged’s Account was correct, the statement above is not. What is Ged's version of events ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: This is all nonsense, as it was when it was raised before. Ged’s account was correct, the first post above is not. What's the real situation then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: This is all nonsense, as it was when it was raised before. Ged’s account was correct, the first post above is not. I would accept that 100%. I have never had any reason to doubt anything Neil has ever posted ... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Blupanther said: I would accept that 100%. I have never had any reason to doubt anything Neil has ever posted ... Can you tell me what Ged has said, because I'm not expecting an answer from Neil ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, proud panther said: Can you tell me what Ged has said, because I'm not expecting an answer from Neil ? I'm not really sure that has been made public tbh, but it's obviously not the same as Daniel Smiths version. I don't trust Chapman or his intentions... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: This is all nonsense, as it was when it was raised before. Ged’s account was correct, the first post above is not. So why won't you and/or Ged tell us what the real story is then? You tell us it's incorrect but don't offer an alternative. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Blupanther said: I'm not really sure that has been made public tbh, but it's obviously not the same as Daniel Smiths version. I don't trust Chapman or his intentions... I don't trust Chapman at all, but would just like to know the truth in this matter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Noodles said: So why won't you and/or Ged tell us what the real story is then? You tell us it's incorrect but don't offer an alternative. Exactly !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: What's the real situation then? Thought you knew 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 There are those that know, there are those that think they know and then there are the paying public whose only function is to pay the entrance fee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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