2ndbendbeerhut Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Tungate is "owned" by Ipswich and as Ipswich is now "owned " by Buster it saves money for Buster to use one if his riders. Unlike a lot of "no 1s" Tungate was willing to ride in the PL but was never ever going to ride for Ipswich or possibly Kings Lynn. Personally I think it makes Peterborough stronger but it was the way it was done that was the issue treating the fans with contempt and disregard. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Would not be surprised if Harris is on the same deal as he had with Boro, and Tungates deal is similar. Rider control, East Anglia style! If the BSPA was properly governed with an independent Executive in control, it would impose strong limitations and conditions on all proposed team changes during the season by Chapman's three clubs where riders would be moving from one club to another. For consistency the same should apply to Leicester and Sheffield, by the way! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) Can't see how Tungate saves Peterborough much money - unless Harris really was on a fantastic deal. Rohan definitely makes you stronger. Edited January 31, 2019 by SPEEDY69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: Can't see how Tungate save Peterborough much money - unless he really was on a fantastic deal. Rohan definitely makes you stronger. A weird one Tungate makes them much stronger and he has the potential to improve. I imagine the change was because he is a Ipswich/ Chapman asset and it saves him Chapman money. Edited January 31, 2019 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: Can't see how Tungate save Peterborough much money - unless he really was on a fantastic deal. Rohan definitely makes you stronger. No loan fee for a start.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Beginning to think that its possible Harris was asked to go to Ipswich on the same terms and maybe even with a bonus, so that Tungate could join the only club he would ride for of Chapmans teams, it solved Ipswich's problem and the fact he had an asset that he could now use. What role Ged and Neil played in this no one will ever know, does perhaps make Peterborough a bit stronger looking but doesn't stand well in PR terms. If Cooks actual average before the reduction is higher than Tungate's which average will they use for riding position within the team the one used for team building purposes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, scoobydoo said: Beginning to think that its possible Harris was asked to go to Ipswich on the same terms and maybe even with a bonus, so that Tungate could join the only club he would ride for of Chapmans teams, it solved Ipswich's problem and the fact he had an asset that he could now use. What role Ged and Neil played in this no one will ever know, does perhaps make Peterborough a bit stronger looking but doesn't stand well in PR terms. If Cooks actual average before the reduction is higher than Tungate's which average will they use for riding position within the team the one used for team building purposes. My understanding is that the reduction is for initial team building only however the PR states Tungate will start as no 1 I agree with others this is likely to make the Panthers stronger overall as Tungate is still effectively on the way up and is in good current form finishing second to Fricke in the recent Australian Championship. Edited January 31, 2019 by bigcatdiary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: so that Tungate could join the only club he would ride for of Chapmans teams Seen this a few times and it’s starting to grate to be honest. The fact is, it’s Ipswich that won’t have Tungate back, NOT that Tungate won’t ride for Ipswich. The rider himself has publicly said he’s asked Chris Louis and Ritchie Hawkins about a team place, and received no reply. He’s simply not welcome back at Ipswich. Good luck to him at Peterborough though. As I said earlier, makes Peterborough stronger. Tungate will be in the 7-8 average range, Harris will drop to 6-7. IMO. Edited January 31, 2019 by Arch Stanton 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Seen this a few times and it’s starting to grate to be honest. The fact is, it’s Ipswich that won’t have Tungate back, NOT that Tungate won’t ride for Ipswich. The rider himself has publicly said he’s asked Chris Louis and Ritchie Hawkins about a team place, and received no reply. He’s simply not welcome back at Ipswich. Bang on the money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Bang bang bang on the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Decent team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 38 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Seen this a few times and it’s starting to grate to be honest. The fact is, it’s Ipswich that won’t have Tungate back, NOT that Tungate won’t ride for Ipswich. The rider himself has publicly said he’s asked Chris Louis and Ritchie Hawkins about a team place, and received no reply. He’s simply not welcome back at Ipswich. Good luck to him at Peterborough though. As I said earlier, makes Peterborough stronger. Tungate will be in the 7-8 average range, Harris will drop to 6-7. IMO. Sorry should of said could ride for not would ride for then No doubt be a popular visitor then when hes there riding for the Panthers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, geoff58 said: 2nd to doyle FRICKE you mean !! Yes I meant Fricke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Tungate won't create the unity in the pits that Harris would have, Poole discovered that Harris is worth far more than just the points he scores, so those who think this makes the team stronger, I wouldn't be too sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: Seen this a few times and it’s starting to grate to be honest. The fact is, it’s Ipswich that won’t have Tungate back, NOT that Tungate won’t ride for Ipswich. The rider himself has publicly said he’s asked Chris Louis and Ritchie Hawkins about a team place, and received no reply. He’s simply not welcome back at Ipswich. Good luck to him at Peterborough though. As I said earlier, makes Peterborough stronger. Tungate will be in the 7-8 average range, Harris will drop to 6-7. IMO. So hopefully this will put to bed how people think Chapman is running the show. He has purely bought the two clubs to keep the league running. He doesn't say who is riding for who or he would have made Tungate available for Ipswich surely. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, tellboy said: So hopefully this will put to bed how people think Chapman is running the show. He has purely bought the two clubs to keep the league running. He doesn't say who is riding for who or he would have made Tungate available for Ipswich surely. Think you need to read the posts above. Seems like Ipswich had no desire for tungate due to some issues. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, tellboy said: So hopefully this will put to bed how people think Chapman is running the show. He has purely bought the two clubs to keep the league running. He doesn't say who is riding for who or he would have made Tungate available for Ipswich surely. I think you're forgetting that Bjerre said that it was Chapman who he was negotiating with about signing for Peterborough. You might think that on that basis he was doing or controlling all of the negotiations. Like others, I think Tungate makes a good Peterborough side even stronger. It's a shame we had to lose both him and Cook to get under the points limit. I hope both have good seasons, I think they will. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sully said: Think you need to read the posts above. Seems like Ipswich had no desire for tungate due to some issues. The main one being that he's a miserable little git. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Basically...... Louis needed a number 1 on a specific average, Tungate has had issues with Ippo in the past, so wasn't an option but Harris was. Louis speaks to Chapman and puts the case to them saying Harris fits and could Panthers go with Rohan Chapman thinks this pleases both parties and agrees. Anyone else see this? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Panthers89 said: Basically...... Louis needed a number 1 on a specific average, Tungate has had issues with Ippo in the past, so wasn't an option but Harris was. Louis speaks to Chapman and puts the case to them saying Harris fits and could Panthers go with Rohan Chapman thinks this pleases both parties and agrees. Anyone else see this? Didn't please Ged & Neil though did it? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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