Glasgow 2019 Onwards

[Midget]

Just now, mac101 said:

See this is what I mean it was double his wages then its £10k now it's £10k and a bike chinese whispers or what :-))

Double his wages, plus the 10k. No Chinese whispers. Just facts. 

[Cupidstunt]

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[mac101]

5 minutes ago, Midget said:

Double his wages, plus the 10k. No Chinese whispers. Just facts. 

when did the bike come into it as you just added that anything else lol  maybe will be 2 bikes by the season starts unless you can provide facts it's all hearsay and that is a fact 

Edited December 4, 2018 by mac101

[Gazc]

13 minutes ago, Midget said:

So Glasgow offered rasmus Jensen 10k and a bike JUST to sign for the season, how do they have the face to plead povertity in the speedway star just a few weeks earlier?? Desperately trying to buy the league trophy, and in doing so stuffing up every other club In British speedway. All you get out of riders now when negotiations take place is Glasgow have offered this......

As if the sport isn't in enough trouble without Glasgow pulling tricks like this. 

Let's just hope they win something next year or who knows what desperate measures they'll make next. Sadly though I can't see them winning anything with the team they have put together, sarjent at 2, starke at 4 an two week reserves that's way two long of a tail. 

Hilarious just hilarious, you should consider doing stand up you are a natural.

[mac101]

1 minute ago, Gazc said:

Hilarious just hilarious, you should consider doing stand up you are a natural.

He is a midget no chance of that maybe dwarf wrestling 

[Uluru]

Well, it might be true, it might not.    I'm taking the Worky moans and Tigers' howls of derision with equal quantities of salt.

But if I was going shopping with ten grand and a new bike under my arm, I reckon I'd be wanting to get a bit more in exchange than a 25-year-old Danish journeyman who has only pushed his 6.56 average at Plymouth in 2013 average all the way up to 6.59 last season.      

 

[singy13]

7 minutes ago, Uluru said:

Well, it might be true, it might not.    I'm taking the Worky moans and Tigers' howls of derision with equal quantities of salt.

But if I was going shopping with ten grand and a new bike under my arm, I reckon I'd be wanting to get a bit more in exchange than a 25-year-old Danish journeyman who has only pushed his 6.56 average at Plymouth in 2013 average all the way up to 6.59 last season.      

 

Flippin heck averages averages averages.....don't use them to decry a rider it doesn't add up.....all of us who saw Ramus perform in the latter part of Comets triumphant season had evidence aplenty of his crowd pleasing input....a joy to watch for sure...........stuff the averages.

[singy13]

14 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Now seriously starting to think my cash will be stopping in my pocket this year... and if Ashley sells Newcastle I might even get my season ticket back and kiss the shale goodbye...

Bloody hell......don't leave us pls.......especially to support NUFC...sublime to ridiculous for certain.

[TotallyHonestJohn]

1 hour ago, mac101 said:

when did the bike come into it as you just added that anything else lol  maybe will be 2 bikes by the season starts unless you can provide facts it's all hearsay and that is a fact 

Honestly

I know the two deals were not that far apart on points money, it was the "add on's" and fringe benefits that swung the deal, and again being honest I did not get to find out what those "add on's" were (and if I did I wouldn't be putting it out on here that's for sure) but at the end of the day Workington's last offer fell short so that was the end of it, and again at the end of the day if Glasgow can afford it  they can offer what they want with as many bells and whistles attached. It is between the rider and the club and that's it.

In fact even if they cant afford it they can still offer what the want. Ultimately a rider will do what he perceives as to what is best for himself and his career and there isn't much loyalty in sport these days and that is any sport for that matter not just Speedway. Finally you know what my grump was, (and it wasn't the deal) so I wont rake over those coals again. 

Mr Uluru from down under has made a valid point as too has Sing13 and Glasgow have paid over their monies and they will take their chance on a rider who is a hot property at the moment and definitely a talent on a bike and like most Danes is a consummate professional who; and again if I am totally honest was a pleasure to work with last season and always gave 100% effort; when others sometimes spat the dummy, So I do hope he kicks on this season and the Glasgow fans get see what he can do. #SpecialJ

I will watch his progression through the sport with interest, he's a genuine kid (and his old man is a good lad too) and a talented Speedway rider whose aggression and control on a bike was fantastic to watch.

Regards
THJ

Edited December 4, 2018 by TotallyHonestJohn
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[mac101]

2 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Honestly

I know the two deals were not that far apart on points money, it was the "add on's" and fringe benefits that swung the deal, and again being honest I did not get to find out what those "add on's" were (and if I did I wouldn't be putting it out on here that's for sure) but at the end of the day Workington's last offer fell short so that was the end of it, and again at the end of the day if Glasgow can afford it  they can offer what they want with as many bells and whistles attached. It is between the rider and the club and that's it.

In fact even if they cant afford it they can offer what the want. Ultimately a rider will do what he perceives as to what is best for himself and his career and there isn't much loyalty in any sport these days and that is any sport for that matter not just Speedway. Finally you know what my grump was, (and it wasn't the deal) so I wont rake over those coals again. 

Mr Uluru from down under has made a valid point as too has Sing13 and Glasgow have paid over their monies and they will take their chance on a rider who is a hot property at the moment and definitely a talent on a bike and like most Danes is a consummate professional who; and again if I am totally honest was a pleasure to work with last season and always gave 100% effort; when others sometimes spat the dummy, So I do hope he kicks on this season and the Glasgow fans get see what he can do. #SpecialJ

I will watch his progression through the sport with interest, he's a genuine kid (and his old man is a good lad too) and a talented Speedway rider whose aggression and control on a bike was fantastic to watch.

Regards
THJ

As Gerry Facenna said in his tv interview it was with a few different sponsors help that they managed to secure some of this years riders so if the sponsor wants to write off some money he is free to do so whether it be vans  rolling chassis Kevlar's engines  which are all given back at the end of the season it’s really up to them 

[Fromafar]

2 minutes ago, mac101 said:

As Gerry Facenna said in his tv interview it was with a few different sponsors help that they managed to secure some of this years riders so if the sponsor wants to write off some money he is free to do so whether it be vans  rolling chassis Kevlar's engines  which are all given back at the end of the season it’s really up to them 

Its the standard reply to “ where does the money come from”.

[TotallyHonestJohn]

1 minute ago, mac101 said:

As Gerry Facenna said in his tv interview it was with a few different sponsors help that they managed to secure some of this years riders so if the sponsor wants to write off some money he is free to do so whether it be vans  rolling chassis Kevlar's engines  which are all given back at the end of the season it’s really up to them 

Agreed and that was the case last year as well; as one guy I sponsor was given a £6k sign on however he chose to take two bikes instead of the sign on money. It worked out better for him as it probably stretched to about £8.5k of gear rather than £6k of cash and that was fully funded from a sponsor rather than the club. But I don't think anything was handed back at the end of the year, however deals have always been sweetened by fringe benefits in every job not just sport.

Regards
THJ

[singy13]

8 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Aye am coming round to your way of thinking Paulco and a was doing a night shift of me own unfortunately 

Regards

THJ 

Night shift for the business you own, wow??????

Were you just checking all were awake?

[mac101]

12 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Agreed and that was the case last year as well; as one guy I sponsor was given a £6k sign on however he chose to take two bikes instead of the sign on money. It worked out better for him as it probably stretched to about £8.5k of gear rather than £6k of cash and that was fully funded from a sponsor rather than the club. But I don't think anything was handed back at the end of the year, however deals have always been sweetened by fringe benefits in every job not just sport.

Regards
THJ

Most of these sponsors can afford to write of that sort of money Glasgow seem to have a good few that are willing to help riders 

How to promote a club 

 

Edited December 4, 2018 by mac101

[singy13]

With the upcoming BSPA AGM, we have made the decision that we will continue to support the participation of Glasgow Tigers as a Championship team in 2019, but unless we can make a significant turnaround in terms of operational costs and revenue, it is doubtful we will be able to support a Championship team the following year.

Lest ye forget.

[nagy1]

Just out of curiosity, where did the contempt/hatred towards Glasgow come from? Workington fans have been putrid on here towards us. Revelling in a statement that our promoters may not invest their hard earned into the club after next year. 

What is the reason for it? We don't even get this level of abuse from the 0131's.

As I have said before, many times, it seems people would rather we had went out of business. Or did everyone just prefer their easy points when we were rolling up with the O'Malley's and Horwoods of the world?  Instead that Faccenna's have created a very good racing facility and have the most productive and forward thinking promoting team out there. This promotion has also brought many new fans in through the gate, some of which now travel to away matches. Yet people still want to slaughter them.

The backward thinking mentality of some people will close the sport down in this country for good. 

 

[Tigerforever]

Would be very disappointed if rival fans wanted to see any club close, I think it’s to do with the statement that our Championship future could be in jeopardy yet we are supposedly still paying more than other clubs, and in some cases outbidding other clubs for riders.

The marketing side is still fantastic with the video for season tickets very well thought out,  If/when we announce Cook & Jensen I’m certain opposition supporters will find it difficult to understand the ( we can’t go on losing money statements ) in light of the allegations made against the club by so many of the forum users on these pages about silly money being thrown at riders.

[Tsunami]

16 minutes ago, Tigerforever said:

Would be very disappointed if rival fans wanted to see any club close, I think it’s to do with the statement that our Championship future could be in jeopardy yet we are supposedly still paying more than other clubs, and in some cases outbidding other clubs for riders.

The marketing side is still fantastic with the video for season tickets very well thought out,  If/when we announce Cook & Jensen I’m certain opposition supporters will find it difficult to understand the ( we can’t go on losing money statements ) in light of the allegations made against the club by so many of the forum users on these pages about silly money being thrown at riders.

Quite agree. I think some Glasgow fans are overreacting to genuine comments on the promotions tactics and behaviour during the signing and contract details of prospective riders for the following season.There is NO hatred, or a wish to see ANY club close, by any forummers on here. Instead, we all see a certain irony that a team known for dubious attempts to get a rider to move to them, instead of staying with a club who they have already agreed to join, pleading hardship because of their own practices. I also think it is dubious that Glasgow fans don't accept that some on here, including me, do not know actually deals, when with a bit shopping around at Ashfield there will be people who will tell them. It has gone on, so why try and ignore what others know. 

[topaz325]

1 hour ago, nagy1 said:

Just out of curiosity, where did the contempt/hatred towards Glasgow come from? Workington fans have been putrid on here towards us. Revelling in a statement that our promoters may not invest their hard earned into the club after next year. 

What is the reason for it? We don't even get this level of abuse from the 0131's.

As I have said before, many times, it seems people would rather we had went out of business. Or did everyone just prefer their easy points when we were rolling up with the O'Malley's and Horwoods of the world?  Instead that Faccenna's have created a very good racing facility and have the most productive and forward thinking promoting team out there. This promotion has also brought many new fans in through the gate, some of which now travel to away matches. Yet people still want to slaughter them.

The backward thinking mentality of some people will close the sport down in this country for good. 

 

Not from me?

[jenga]

2 hours ago, Tsunami said:

Quite agree. I think some Glasgow fans are overreacting to genuine comments on the promotions tactics and behaviour during the signing and contract details of prospective riders for the following season.There is NO hatred, or a wish to see ANY club close, by any forummers on here. Instead, we all see a certain irony that a team known for dubious attempts to get a rider to move to them, instead of staying with a club who they have already agreed to join, pleading hardship because of their own practices. I also think it is dubious that Glasgow fans don't accept that some on here, including me, do not know actually deals, when with a bit shopping around at Ashfield there will be people who will tell them. It has gone on, so why try and ignore what others know. 

 MANSE ..whats confusing about the post that  tsunami put up ? 

i agree . no other fans want other clubs to close. its just the way its panned out . one week they are pleading poverty and then they go and do that to another club and offer something better to the rider AFTER the rider has already agreed terms for next year . 

when glasgow were taken over by the brothers , money was no object and certain glasgow fans were gloating at other fans in their new found wealth . the alleged loss was sad , but then they go and offer bigger deals to riders . its foolish to think that even with a packed arena/stadium @ glasgow ,the speedway will make money if they keep opening the purse strings to everyone . the option was there for them and it looks like they may have made the wrong choice to throw good money after bad .

so yes , we moan at each other , but we certainly dont want any club to close 

Edited December 4, 2018 by jenga