Cupidstunt Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 Luke Chessell has not rode for 2 years he now is in Glasgows team, they must be desperate, maybe having all the money in Speedway can't always get the riders they want. lets be honest Luke and Joe would not have been their first choices, these are names that would be at the bottom of the list of 2 point riders that nobody else wanted. Craig Cook is the issue in this team, his average is way too high for the Championship on a 38 point limit, most likely the deal was done before the AGM as otherwise why would you take him on. i would have thought Cook would want to concentrate on the big league speedway like in Poland and Sweden, maybe he has no ambition or simply he is getting paid a lot of money from the club but Glasgow keep saying they are losing money so who knows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, Cupidstunt said: Luke Chessell has not rode for 2 years he now is in Glasgows team, they must be desperate, maybe having all the money in Speedway can't always get the riders they want. lets be honest Luke and Joe would not have been their first choices, these are names that would be at the bottom of the list of 2 point riders that nobody else wanted. Craig Cook is the issue in this team, his average is way too high for the Championship on a 38 point limit, most likely the deal was done before the AGM as otherwise why would you take him on. i would have thought Cook would want to concentrate on the big league speedway like in Poland and Sweden, maybe he has no ambition or simply he is getting paid a lot of money from the club but Glasgow keep saying they are losing money so who knows Cook knows he is at his limit,he doesn’t want to throw all his money at something that is beyond him IMO.His Polish league form wasn’t great considering it was 2 nd tier.If you don’t perform over there your dropped ,not like here.His pal Dan guzumpted him last year at Rybnik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerforever Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 Reading his FB interview Luke Chessel said it took him 6 hours to get up to Glasgow, that’s a hell of a long way to bring a 2 pointer, though I believe Jack Thomas was even more? as you said I can’t see our reserves being our first choice to fill 6/7 positions. Looking at the side so far maybe we are cutting down on costs to riders ( Cook aside ) or couldn’t we attract the Flint, Bickley and Kemp’s that’s required when you go top heavy? Regardless I still can’t wait until March when the tapes go up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 There will always be riders who step down during the season as they find the going to tough, i suspect Chessell will be early favourite to be first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, Tigerforever said: Reading his FB interview Luke Chessel said it took him 6 hours to get up to Glasgow, that’s a hell of a long way to bring a 2 pointer, though I believe Jack Thomas was even more? as you said I can’t see our reserves being our first choice to fill 6/7 positions. Looking at the side so far maybe we are cutting down on costs to riders ( Cook aside ) or couldn’t we attract the Flint, Bickley and Kemp’s that’s required when you go top heavy? Regardless I still can’t wait until March when the tapes go up . Unless he could not agree terms or there has been a fall- out its seems strange not to bring Jack back after pereseving with him last season,he showed promise and surely they had an idea of league structure being weakened,he should have been the 1 st name on the Teamsheet IMO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 32 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Unless he could not agree terms or there has been a fall- out its seems strange not to bring Jack back after pereseving with him last season,he showed promise and surely they had an idea of league structure being weakened,he should have been the 1 st name on the Teamsheet IMO Both rider and club would have benefitted from his return. However its 2 hours to Leicester or 8 hours to Glasgow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, MD said: Both rider and club would have benefitted from his return. However its 2 hours to Leicester or 8 hours to Glasgow. Travelling was not an issue last year though,he improved a lot ,seemed to like the track.Like I said I don’t know if he turned them down or wasn’t considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 47 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: There will always be riders who step down during the season as they find the going to tough, i suspect Chessell will be early favourite to be first. Which will require the team to be restructured to fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Travelling was not an issue last year though,he improved a lot ,seemed to like the track.Like I said I don’t know if he turned them down or wasn’t considered. Jack had said himself it was down to the travelling that made his mind up not to return. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) They tried for a lot of top nl riders for reserves but they did not want to travel up here on a Friday some dew to parents working and others that would be riding way down south over the weekend and too much traveling if it was Saturday or Sunday the first few they asked would have jumped at the chance and just think jack was fed up with the traveling and why travel another 6 hours for extra £5-10 a point luke has always done well when he guested for us and will be ok against the other 2 point riders and think Joe will be a lot better than folk make out if his equipment is up to scratch Edited December 11, 2018 by mac101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 5 hours ago, MANSE said: Sure I read a post earlier it was proposed to be 6 man teams built to 36 at pre meetings to the AGM but at the AGM certain teams decided to vote against it.Looking at certain teams who have two 2 point reserves had more or less had their team sorted and their only option was another 2 point rider Having read the SS about some teams wanting a 40 limit probably pre AGM then voted on a 38 limit some teams might have been sorted. Some teams were then changed to allow for this to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerforever Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 33 minutes ago, mac101 said: They tried for a lot of top nl riders for reserves but they did not want to travel up here on a Friday some dew to parents working and others that would be riding way down south over the weekend and too much traveling if it was Saturday or Sunday the first few they asked would have jumped at the chance and just think jack was fed up with the traveling and why travel another 6 hours for extra £5-10 a point luke has always done well when he guested for us and will be ok against the other 2 point riders and think Joe will be a lot better than folk make out if his equipment is up to scratch The first few they tried? How many did we try to get before we went for Lawlor and Chessel!!! Well at least we can’t be accused of offering silly money to get the top NL riders as many on here have spouted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Tigerforever said: Reading his FB interview Luke Chessel said it took him 6 hours to get up to Glasgow, that’s a hell of a long way to bring a 2 pointer, though I believe Jack Thomas was even more? as you said I can’t see our reserves being our first choice to fill 6/7 positions. Looking at the side so far maybe we are cutting down on costs to riders ( Cook aside ) or couldn’t we attract the Flint, Bickley and Kemp’s that’s required when you go top heavy? Regardless I still can’t wait until March when the tapes go up . someone had better tell Glasgow the season starts in April in 2019 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 38 minutes ago, Tigerforever said: The first few they tried? How many did we try to get before we went for Lawlor and Chessel!!! Well at least we can’t be accused of offering silly money to get the top NL riders as many on here have spouted. Well you could’ve they could’ve just decided against it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 I saw Joe Lawlor's post on Facebook about not having a NL team for next season, he won't be the only one forced out of NL racing on the numbers game. I don't know how some of these lads are going to get better riding in just the championship, they need time on the bike. Not scoring many points and being off the pace isn't going to bode well for their confidence and could well force some riders away from the sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Marksman said: I saw Joe Lawlor's post on Facebook about not having a NL team for next season, he won't be the only one forced out of NL racing on the numbers game. I don't know how some of these lads are going to get better riding in just the championship, they need time on the bike. Not scoring many points and being off the pace isn't going to bode well for their confidence and could well force some riders away from the sport. I think the better reserves will get plenty of guest bookings for missing or misfiring reserves of other teams. Edited December 11, 2018 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, Marksman said: I saw Joe Lawlor's post on Facebook about not having a NL team for next season, he won't be the only one forced out of NL racing on the numbers game. I don't know how some of these lads are going to get better riding in just the championship, they need time on the bike. Not scoring many points and being off the pace isn't going to bode well for their confidence and could well force some riders away from the sport. Dead right. The stupid decision to lower the points limit in the NL - according to Plymouth's Mark Phillips, completely against the wishes of the clubs - is likely to backfire spectacularly. Doubling up is a blight on British Speedway but there will be few who will object to a youngster having a place in an NL team and riding for a Championship club, the lower league aiding confidence, the upper league aiding ability. Added to that, Championship clubs haven't always had a good record of patience with young British riders. If they get dropped, there's every chance they will leave the sport as they are unable to gain an NL place and will have nowhere to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Tigerforever said: The first few they tried? How many did we try to get before we went for Lawlor and Chessel!!! Well at least we can’t be accused of offering silly money to get the top NL riders as many on here have spouted. Not what I have heard. The rider in question was offered a staggering amount but apparently turned it down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Halifaxtiger said: Not what I have heard. The rider in question was offered a staggering amount but apparently turned it down. Here we go again they were on silly money vans chucked in payed mechanics unless you can do more than you heard it's hearsay 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 The more I look at the Glasgow team the more it softens the blow about the sneaky underhand tactic the used to sign rasmus Jensen. Karma is a bitch an the more I look at the Glasgow team the more it makes me smile. That is not a good team at all, workington proved last season that 2nd strings an more importantly reserves win meetings. So all that money splashed out on a signing on fee on Jensen, going against an agreement an a fellow professional teams back an for What? Chris Harris being on guaranteed mony every meeting last year proves you can't always buy success, let's face it, he was pretty poor wasn't he. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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