MANSE Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Bach is an asset of Worky and he was the last rider signed, total panic buy comes to mind and the club were held over a barrel, also he had been spoilt the previous year with what Glasgow gave him (yep, sad but true) , it was Rene Bach back or run with a 3 or 4 pointer and believe me people do not realise how close that nearly came to happening as Rene said didn't want to race in the UK. Worky started just over half a point under the build limit at the start of last year with 3 riders who all thought they were Number 1's Rene having the highest average of them all at 7.53 not exactly what you would call a high average for someone who isn't perceived as an out and out No 1 but due to the lateness of Worky declaring to run this meant most riders had their deals sorted, so they got what they could and of course supply and demand came into play, also Rene knocked Glasgow back well before Worky approached him so you are being a bit disingenuous there as he didn't want to ride in this country last year due to work commitments but hey don't let the truth get in the way of trying to explain your promotions actions Regards THJ Wrong Glasgow knocked back Bachs terms 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Bach is an asset of Worky and he was the last rider signed, total panic buy comes to mind and the club were held over a barrel, also he had been spoilt the previous year with what Glasgow gave him (yep, sad but true) , it was Rene Bach back or run with a 3 or 4 pointer and believe me people do not realise how close that nearly came to happening as Rene said didn't want to race in the UK. Worky started just over half a point under the build limit at the start of last year with 3 riders who all thought they were Number 1's Rene having the highest average of them all at 7.53 not exactly what you would call a high average for someone who isn't perceived as an out and out No 1 but due to the lateness of Worky declaring to run this meant most riders had their deals sorted, so they got what they could and of course supply and demand came into play, also Rene knocked Glasgow back well before Worky approached him so you are being a bit disingenuous there as he didn't want to ride in this country last year due to work commitments but hey don't let the truth get in the way of trying to explain your promotions actions Regards THJ It is getting tiresome now we get it you don't like the Glasgow promotion. Now go and tell someone who actually cares. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 1 minute ago, MANSE said: Wrong Glasgow knocked back Bachs terms Fair enough if that's the case I accept that, but Glasgow had a go at him long before Worky got anywhere near and as he was one of the few riders or last one possibly with a high enough average to to fit.. Worky would have probably had no other option but to accept his terms, (or take a 3/4 point rider on) but it was touch and go that they got him. However you did state in your post "we could not agree a deal with Bach last year but you did funny that" and negotiating terms is a two way thing and you imply that Worky out-bid Glasgow or somehow met Bach's terms in deference to Glasgow... Glasgow spoke to Rene before the Christmas!!! Worky were still scratching around late February early March trying to find a 7th team member who ended up being Rene... 1 minute ago, Gazc said: It is getting tiresome now we get it you don't like the Glasgow promotion. Now go and tell someone who actually cares. Hey I don't know the Glasgow promotion so how can I dislike them, I have heard nothing but good about them as people and honestly I don't dislike anyone until they start P1$$ing down my leg and then try to tell me its raining. then I get upset and usually make a "twonk" of myself; however what I don't like is their "modus operandi" and I can have an opinion on that so please respect that just like I respect your incessant (incandescent) defence of something I find fundamentally wrong however that is your opinion and I would fight for the right for you to have that opinion even if I do not agree with it. So as I am telling someone who purports not to care why do you keep responding, why dignify my posts with a response if you don't care!!! Will I tell you why? because you are passionate about your club and you are trying to defend something that you probably (deep down) think is wrong (and certainly wouldn't like it done to you) however because of your loyalty to you club you bite back... That's okay but if you don't like the truth stick me on the naughty step and block my posts or ignore or whatever the thing is I will not be offended. But if you do opt for that don't tell me as I will take the "Mickey" and with me on stop you wont see what I am saying and that will eat at you even more, wow I am going round in circles now, need more drink. Keep a hold on reality, enjoy your speedway be passionate about your club and I do (Honestly) hope this year Glasgow actually win something to get this "monkey off their backs" as spending all this money and still with an empty trophy cabinet; well its getting embarrassing. You couldn't even win the Scottish Cup this year and you were seeded straight into the final ffs... come on a mean... Actually here is a good idea all the other clubs should chip in and buy Glasgow a Silver Salver and a couple of Cups then they might give up on this incessant (obsessive) chase for silverware and get back to playing the game properly. Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerforever Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 hours ago, MANSE said: Costs have reduced 1] Previous team managers full time salary 2]The den has closed was making a loss outwith the speedway meetings 3]New safety fence purchased no cost this year 4] Major trackwork completed minimal cost this year 5] Den managers full time salary think that would come to a fair cost.Please tell me where it says we have signed Rasmus Jensen lastly what are we paying him, we could not agree a deal with Bach last year but you did funny that As you say definitely savings to be made from your list, previous team manager ? I thought he didn’t do this season unless Cami Brown was on full time wages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 Riders will contact Glasgow if they pay better. It is their career after all. Heard their £s per point is one of the best but what attracts riders is the scale of signing on fees. Now apparently staggered payments over the season. As mentioned by previous posters Tiggers can do what they want as can other teams BUT riders now quote Glasgow figures to other Clubs who can ill afford their demands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, Tigerforever said: As you say definitely savings to be made from your list, previous team manager ? I thought he didn’t do this season unless Cami Brown was on full time wages? Full time employment don't no how their tax year works.Cami not on salary I beleive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, Endeavour said: Riders will contact Glasgow if they pay better. It is their career after all. Heard their £s per point is one of the best but what attracts riders is the scale of signing on fees. Now apparently staggered payments over the season. As mentioned by previous posters Tiggers can do what they want as can other teams BUT riders now quote Glasgow figures to other Clubs who can ill afford their demands. Well thats all pretty simple then, tell them all to go and ride for Glasgow. There will be a canny queue tho, cos there's only seven jobs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Endeavour said: Riders will contact Glasgow if they pay better. It is their career after all. Heard their £s per point is one of the best but what attracts riders is the scale of signing on fees. Now apparently staggered payments over the season. As mentioned by previous posters Tiggers can do what they want as can other teams BUT riders now quote Glasgow figures to other Clubs who can ill afford their demands. Good point but other clubs dont need to meet those riders demands. If a rider is trying to hold them to ransom them they are better choosing someone else. John Campbell wouldn't tolerate it and neither would any of the other old school. No rider is worth jeopordising the club for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, MD said: Good point but other clubs dont need to meet those riders demands. If a rider is trying to hold them to ransom them they are better choosing someone else. John Campbell wouldn't tolerate it and neither would any of the other old school. No rider is worth jeopordising the club for. One thing you can say about John Campbell he knows his stuff a good old school promoter/manager. I could imagine what he would tell them and where to go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 Love how all these post saying they know how much Glasgow pay there riders and what deals they are getting and riders getting silly wages double of what everybody else is paying (bullsh1t) more like chinese whispers starts off at £50/£70 a point and by the time it gets on here it’s trebled and don’t forget their mega signing on fees lol guess they also know how much sponsors give them towards the riders wages 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, mac101 said: Love how all these post saying they know how much Glasgow pay there riders and what deals they are getting and riders getting silly wages double of what everybody else is paying (bullsh1t) more like chinese whispers starts off at £50/£70 a point and by the time it gets on here it’s trebled and don’t forget their mega signing on fees lol guess they also know how much sponsors give them towards the riders wages You will spoil it for them don't let the truth get in the way of a good old Glasgow bashing they are like sheep. Anyway this is not what they want to hear, we shall have someone along shortly to question this as they know for fact how much we pay. They heard it at the hairdressers last week and had it confirmed in Asda later that day so it must be true. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 hours ago, snapper said: It was only £7K its funny how the Glasgow followers were boasting about selling mason to workington for k10 isnt it ? so even back then the Glasgow faithful were adding bits onto things that were not true . now the k100.000.00 debt may only be k50 they lost or have they lost more than that and dont want to admit it ............. K7 OR K10 . what was the real price then . or was it , send three and fourpence , we are going to a dance . chipping up, add ons , call it what you will ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, jenga said: its funny how the Glasgow followers were boasting about selling mason to workington for k10 isnt it ? so even back then the Glasgow faithful were adding bits onto things that were not true . now the k100.000.00 debt may only be k50 they lost or have they lost more than that and dont want to admit it ............. K7 OR K10 . what was the real price then . or was it , send three and fourpence , we are going to a dance . chipping up, add ons , call it what you will ... It was 7k-10k paid over 15 years with a buy back clause of a fiver with the fiver repayment spread over 5 years. There was also a sell on clause inserted that we get a kit kat and 3 capri suns if you sold him to another club. Hope this clears it up for you. Your welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 will the tigers still be around when the 15 years is up ? so who is getting the cash now.( the faccues. cant spell facciners) or a.n other . hope its not on brighthouse terms lol . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, jenga said: will the tigers still be around when the 15 years is up ? so who is getting the cash now.( the faccues. cant spell facciners) or a.n other . hope its not on brighthouse terms lol . Probably not will there be anyone around in 15 years ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 G,night gaz . we will carry on another day . this day is now H18TORY . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeyin Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 Ooft the Glasgow bashing is on overkill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 9 hours ago, Gazc said: You will spoil it for them don't let the truth get in the way of a good old Glasgow bashing they are like sheep. Anyway this is not what they want to hear, we shall have someone along shortly to question this as they know for fact how much we pay. They heard it at the hairdressers last week and had it confirmed in Asda later that day so it must be true. I think its safe to say that Glasgow approached a number of last seasons Worky team before our promotion did. Isn't this against protocol and another example of how speedway needs further independent control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 19 minutes ago, SteelShoe said: I think its safe to say that Glasgow approached a number of last seasons Worky team before our promotion did. Isn't this against protocol and another example of how speedway needs further independent control. I would doubt it as if as you say the season has finished unless any were an asset of Workington. Self Employed riders will basically ride wrer they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, dorothy58 said: Ooft the Glasgow bashing is on overkill I am taking the day off Dot. Edited November 23, 2018 by Gazc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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