Tsunami Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 53 minutes ago, topsoil said: When have we ever had a GP star ride for us? Kus and Pepe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 My go.......just for fun. With Cookie......as it's been hinted he's a cert to sign.... Cook 10.45....Summers 7.18....Starke 5.88....Sargeant 4.16....Stewart 4.09....Mountain 3.57....Kemp 2.00 = 37.33 (options to have Bacon or Garcia in place of Sargeant) Cookieless..... Summers 7.18....Vissing 6.94....Kerr 7.18....Starke 5.88....Stewart 4.09....Mountain 3.57....Kemp 2.00 = 36.84 (options to have Allen, Palm Toft or Ellis in place of Kerr) I think the bottom three should all make good progress next year. I also realise that every promoter and their granny's will be wanting to sign Kemp. I have some other names that I fancy but feel there may be a lesser chance of them signing and/or moving clubs i.e. Jensen, Pickering, Heeps, Etheridge and Wilson-Dean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 21 hours ago, Tsunami said: Kus and Pepe. Touche. I suppose you could add Rymel, Makovsky and Franchetti to that list as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 Connor Mountain will be riding for Leicester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, Blackadder said: Connor Mountain will be riding for Leicester. Its a bit of fun and a major feat to build a half decent team to 38 points. I could have included Tai in my effort doesn't mean he is signing. So chill out and lets see who signs for who. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 Any news on the meeting at Ibrox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeratheart Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 Pretty disappointed to be honest, did not tell me anything I did not know before except the rumour that the promotion had already signed cookie and starkey but have not come right out with it , wanting to build some speculation i think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeratheart Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 Pretty disappointed, did not tell me anything I did not know,except the rumour that the promotion have already signed cookie and starkey ,but are not coming right out and saying this. Must want to build some speculation I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 20 hours ago, Tigeratheart said: Pretty disappointed, did not tell me anything I did not know,except the rumour that the promotion have already signed cookie and starkey ,but are not coming right out and saying this. Must want to build some speculation I think. Much head scratching with most promotions about how to fit 7 riders into this ridiculous points limit . Think it will take more time than usual to find out who is riding where next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Paulco said: Much head scratching with most promotions about how to fit 7 riders into this ridiculous points limit . Think it will take more time than usual to find out who is riding where next year With the extra team the reduction is not as dramatic as first seems From the same pool of riders the average team total reduces from the 42.5 to around 40 anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: With the extra team the reduction is not as dramatic as first seems From the same pool of riders the average team total reduces from the 42.5 to around 40 anyway 38 is 38 last time i checked The only saving grace is that an extra team means the 38 point limit wont put 7 riders out of a job Edited November 18, 2018 by Paulco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, Paulco said: 38 is 38 last time i checked The only saving grace is that an extra team means the 38 point limit wont put 7 riders out of a job Robbo and Howe retired Others like Klindt strongly tipped to not be in Championship So 10+ new riders on a mix of 2 and 4 averages will make it much easier to hit 38 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Robbo and Howe retired Others like Klindt strongly tipped to not be in Championship So 10+ new riders on a mix of 2 and 4 averages will make it much easier to hit 38 We shall see . I just hope watering the product down even further doesnt become a stadium emptier . In the long term you could have 5 pointers becoming 7 or 8 pointers in an easier league , when theyre not really 7 or 8 point men and suddenly unemployable . Edited November 18, 2018 by Paulco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, Paulco said: We shall see . I just hope watering the product down even further doesnt become a stadium emptier . In the long term you could have 5 pointers becoming 7 or 8 pointers in an easier league , when theyre not really 7 or 8 point men and suddenly unemployable . It will only work if they stick to the multi year plan to build in the differential between the leagues Although that may mean a 38 limit in the 2nd tier in the coming years and forcing out the top riders from it That will only work if they manage to strengthen the top league too and make it financially viable for riders to rely on just that league No easy answers and no guaranteed success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: It will only work if they stick to the multi year plan to build in the differential between the leagues Although that may mean a 38 limit in the 2nd tier in the coming years and forcing out the top riders from it That will only work if they manage to strengthen the top league too and make it financially viable for riders to rely on just that league No easy answers and no guaranteed success Yes it was ludicrous having riders riding at number 1 in the Premiership and the Championship at the same time . But watering down the Championship when most of the clubs are struggling to just keep going is a gamble . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Paulco said: We shall see . I just hope watering the product down even further doesnt become a stadium emptier . Having only 15 home meetings doesnt exactly help. Should we start our season the first Friday in April we could be done the second Friday in July assuming no rain offs or blank fixtures. Naturally these will be dragged out significantly longer making speedway the same turn off as last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 48 minutes ago, MD said: Having only 15 home meetings doesnt exactly help. Should we start our season the first Friday in April we could be done the second Friday in July assuming no rain offs or blank fixtures. Naturally these will be dragged out significantly longer making speedway the same turn off as last year. How did we cope in the 70's with about 25 teams in our league ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerforever Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 15 fixtures will be the minimum, I would think most clubs will have a first meeting challenge and an individual bringing it to 17 fixtures the more successful clubs will do something like 20 plus I would imagine i do understand the frustration with it being a 38 points limit but what would supporters prefer a 42:5 with 7/8 clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Tigerforever said: 15 fixtures will be the minimum, I would think most clubs will have a first meeting challenge and an individual bringing it to 17 fixtures the more successful clubs will do something like 20 plus I would imagine i do understand the frustration with it being a 38 points limit but what would supporters prefer a 42:5 with 7/8 clubs If it meant seeing a better standard of riders racing against each other , then yes . Wasnt too many years ago the points limit was 45 . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 46 minutes ago, Paulco said: If it meant seeing a better standard of riders racing against each other , then yes . Wasnt too many years ago the points limit was 45 . Trouble is even your Promotion can't get enough fans through the gate to make it pay for itself ,a higher standard probably means big wage bills which is going to close you down if you believe what they are saying.Promotions have to get together regarding wage cap ,if the sport is going to revive its self.Need to go back and build again IMO . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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