mac101 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sotonian said: Does this affect Northside too or is that an independent operation? No nothing to do with worky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tsunami said: I think the assets will come under the control of the BSPA, and if Worky has speedway debts(BSPA, Riders, other clubs) the BSPA will sell the Worky assets to pay off speedway debts as a priority. Only if they're annulled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Byker Biker said: Only if they're annulled I am sure he BSPA would not allow the transfer of assets, if the licence holder has speedway debts. They would look after those within rather than let non promoters sell their assets and keep the money. in any case during this year, the 7 riders that Worky signed, will be controlled by the BSPA in the same way they control foreign riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just out of interest what assets/riders do comets own, I can only think of mason and Rene who are riding, probably others on list who have retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Think they own Kyle howarth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just to add about Northside. When the Bickley's ceased to run Northside, it was taken on by a junior rider's father Malcolm McCoy. During his time Laura has been extremely helpful to Malcom giving him her old shale and lending him a good tractor. With some considerable work Malcolm, has transformed the track, which he probably could not have done without her help. When Northside stopped riding official NJL meetings, Laura allowed the Northside Stars to ride at Derwent Park. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedthebaw Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, Tsunami said: I think the assets will come under the control of the BSPA, and if Worky has speedway debts(BSPA, Riders, other clubs) the BSPA will sell the Worky assets to pay off speedway debts as a priority. So who’s going to buy the assets ? No club has any spare money, apart from one in the North Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, Heedthebaw said: So who’s going to buy the assets ? No club has any spare money, apart from one in the North No one but the bspa will get loan fees every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tsunami said: I am sure he BSPA would not allow the transfer of assets, if the licence holder has speedway debts. They would look after those within rather than let non promoters sell their assets and keep the money. in any case during this year, the 7 riders that Worky signed, will be controlled by the BSPA in the same way they control foreign riders. Yes that's correct and the loan fees will go into the pot but this is a cash flow situation that will be resolved but not in time to start the season. The members who refused fixtures last season, withdrew Friday fixtures and allowed the finals all to be run in just over a week need to take a long hard look at themselves. Plenty of clubs owe money but this isn't the first hiccup at Workington that has taken a while to sort, if the BSPA want to try and retain a shred of respect they will allow them to put the licence on ice until the cash flow situation is resolved. It didn't help matters that the rest of the league met last week to agree fixtures and Workington was excluded from that meeting so even if they did come to the tapes in 2019 they'd get the rse end of the fixtures. In my opinion the responsibility for the decision not to run lies with the sport as a whole and not just Laura, "There by the grace of God go I" should have been on every Promoter's lips this morning just like "chuck her under a bus" was last week! (allegedly of course) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Byker Biker said: Yes that's correct and the loan fees will go into the pot but this is a cash flow situation that will be resolved but not in time to start the season. The members who refused fixtures last season, withdrew Friday fixtures and allowed the finals all to be run in just over a week need to take a long hard look at themselves. Plenty of clubs owe money but this isn't the first hiccup at Workington that has taken a while to sort, if the BSPA want to try and retain a shred of respect they will allow them to put the licence on ice until the cash flow situation is resolved. It didn't help matters that the rest of the league met last week to agree fixtures and Workington was excluded from that meeting so even if they did come to the tapes in 2019 they'd get the rse end of the fixtures. In my opinion the responsibility for the decision not to run lies with the sport as a whole and not just Laura, "There by the grace of God go I" should have been on every Promoter's lips this morning just like "chuck her under a bus" was last week! (allegedly of course) Worky weren't at the AGM either were they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, Tsunami said: Worky weren't at the AGM either were they. Yes, that's the daft part about it outstanding debts and allowed at the AGM but not at a fixture meeting??? i suppose if they'd stuck to the constitution there wouldn't have been an AGM. I don't know if they voted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 47 minutes ago, Byker Biker said: Yes, that's the daft part about it outstanding debts and allowed at the AGM but not at a fixture meeting??? i suppose if they'd stuck to the constitution there wouldn't have been an AGM. I don't know if they voted. 47 minutes ago, Byker Biker said: Yes, that's the daft part about it outstanding debts and allowed at the AGM but not at a fixture meeting??? i suppose if they'd stuck to the constitution there wouldn't have been an AGM. I don't know if they voted. It's a very sad day for Comets and British Speedway....are there more to follow..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Byker Biker said: Yes that's correct and the loan fees will go into the pot but this is a cash flow situation that will be resolved but not in time to start the season. The members who refused fixtures last season, withdrew Friday fixtures and allowed the finals all to be run in just over a week need to take a long hard look at themselves. Plenty of clubs owe money but this isn't the first hiccup at Workington that has taken a while to sort, if the BSPA want to try and retain a shred of respect they will allow them to put the licence on ice until the cash flow situation is resolved. It didn't help matters that the rest of the league met last week to agree fixtures and Workington was excluded from that meeting so even if they did come to the tapes in 2019 they'd get the rse end of the fixtures. In my opinion the responsibility for the decision not to run lies with the sport as a whole and not just Laura, "There by the grace of God go I" should have been on every Promoter's lips this morning just like "chuck her under a bus" was last week! (allegedly of course) Loan fees are not due until the season starts so any loan riders that Workington had signed for 2019 will just revert back to the clubs that own them and will now be available for loan again for the 2019 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.N.Other Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 hours ago, mac101 said: Will they need to pay all the debt back before they can run again or will it come from their bond I take it the riders from last year are still owed money also then as that’s where most of the money goes these days They will have to clear their debts, to assure the BSPA they are viable to run again in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.N.Other Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Fromafar said: If Laura sold up to a buyer before the season started ,would the Comets be allowed back in to League.Just asking! She has already stated in as many words, that no buyer has come forward. And can you really see the BSPA allowing such a move, when it involves ANYTHING that might just possibly HELP Workington Speedway Club ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.N.Other Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Sotonian said: Does this affect Northside too or is that an independent operation? I think Northside track is now closed down ? There hasnt been anything mentioned about any activities there for some time. Unless anyone knows to the contrary ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, A.N.Other said: I think Northside track is now closed down ? There hasnt been anything mentioned about any activities there for some time. Unless anyone knows to the contrary ? They have been working on it last the few weeks and been trying to get it open but the weathers been against them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.N.Other Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Byker Biker said: Yes that's correct and the loan fees will go into the pot but this is a cash flow situation that will be resolved but not in time to start the season. The members who refused fixtures last season, withdrew Friday fixtures and allowed the finals all to be run in just over a week need to take a long hard look at themselves. Plenty of clubs owe money but this isn't the first hiccup at Workington that has taken a while to sort, if the BSPA want to try and retain a shred of respect they will allow them to put the licence on ice until the cash flow situation is resolved. It didn't help matters that the rest of the league met last week to agree fixtures and Workington was excluded from that meeting so even if they did come to the tapes in 2019 they'd get the rse end of the fixtures. In my opinion the responsibility for the decision not to run lies with the sport as a whole and not just Laura, "There by the grace of God go I" should have been on every Promoter's lips this morning just like "chuck her under a bus" was last week! (allegedly of course) You are correct that the BSPA have allowed the club to put their licence on ice (for this season anyway). But if the club had not acted quickly enough and notified the BSPA that they wish to do this asap...then the BSPA would have closed the club down, virtually without warning ! That is why Laura had no choice but to put it on ice as soon as she did ! (What a lovely bunch of chaps the BSPA are !) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 4 hours ago, mac101 said: They have been working on it last the few weeks and been trying to get it open but the weathers been against them It's been a few years since i visited Northside. Could it be a potential NL venue in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 6 hours ago, A.N.Other said: You are correct that the BSPA have allowed the club to put their licence on ice (for this season anyway). But if the club had not acted quickly enough and notified the BSPA that they wish to do this asap...then the BSPA would have closed the club down, virtually without warning ! That is why Laura had no choice but to put it on ice as soon as she did ! (What a lovely bunch of chaps the BSPA are !) Conspiracy theory alert but... Maybe it has dawned on those who run Speedway in the UK that there are too many teams/not enough riders which makes demand exceed supply... This then pushes up salaries.. Maybe those who run the sport are allowing a 'culling' to take place which will tip the balance to supply rather than demand which will then reduce salaries. It will also free up riders to replace missing others without the need for a guest... A few subs on the bench to use for loss of form or injury to others without denting the sports credibility... Maybe it is time to follow Charles Darwin and for the greater good allow the survival of the fittest to rebuild the sport over here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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