LisaColette Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Do we know what Wells' average is and also Berge's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Phil The Ace said: Very happy with the team myself. Good top 2. Only just behind Swindon for top 2 Very good 2nd strings in wells and Worrall. Bewley is a big risk. But by play off time he should be back into the swing of things. And its deffo a risk worth taking. Berge is a bit meh. But at belle vue He will be a good reserve. Lidsey will be dynamite. Can't wait to see him fly round belle vue. I mentioned yesterday that dans biggest challenge will be how he copes mentally rather than physically. His body will be stronger, the man is now part metal. He’s got such natural ability I don’t think he will be rusty on the bike, he’s the type of rider who just sits on the thing and it goes. The fear or recurrence will be in his head and to be honest, the quicker he gets off the bike again the better because that generally cures any doubts. Like Steve said last season, he was just waiting for that first crash when he came back. Once it out of the system you can move forward. Its certainly a gamble as you say, but definitely worth the risk. If we have the Dan Bewley before the crash, that is our 3rd heat leader right there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Wee Eck said: That’s one version...... If you look it’s not hard to find. Pictures across social media and from what I can gather he is ahead of schedule. He will be back on the bike by January. With the NSS and Rybnik he will have plenty of opportunity to put some laps in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, lisa-colette said: Do we know what Wells' average is and also Berge's https://www.speedwaygb.co.uk/request.php?428 Edited December 14, 2018 by Col 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 8 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Most teams have strong reserves, only Swindon that don't atm. Belle Vue will be one of the better pairings. Some sides will have a much weaker number 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 9 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Most teams have strong reserves, only Swindon that don't atm. Really? BV have Lidsey (no UK experience) and Berge (a 5 point CL rider), Poole have Covatti (a 6 point CL rider) and someone worse, Wolves have Becker (no UK experience) and Swindon have two 5 point CL riders. Not a lot in it. Certainly not, compared to the gulf of a difference between the top four riders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, DC2 said: Really? BV have Lidsey (no UK experience) and Berge (a 5 point CL rider), Poole have Covatti (a 6 point CL rider) and someone worse, Wolves have Becker (no UK experience) and Swindon have two 5 point CL riders. Not a lot in it. Certainly not, compared to the gulf of a difference between the top four riders! Lidsey is unknown, but I’d bet my mortgage he’s one of the stronger reserves in the league. He’s been hyped up and for good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford Ace Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 Pretty happy with the team. Strong top 2 which could be a very strong top 4 if Worrall and Dan get back to how they were pre-injuries. Wells should be steady away in the middle order and hopefully Lidsey’s promise is fulfilled in the big wide open spaces of the NSS. Only one I ain’t too fussed on is Berge. Came in last year and was average for me - got a few 8 & 9 point scores but was always from 6 or 7 rides and was no better than who he replaced. Personaly i’d have gone for one of the 2 young Aussie lads based over here, Campton or Pickering who both had better seasons last year than Berge. Overall, not too bad though and think the league is going to be pretty even in 2019. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, acef said: Lidsey is unknown, but I’d bet my mortgage he’s one of the stronger reserves in the league. He’s been hyped up and for good reason. His Polish average is similar to Jacobsen and Bach, which means he should be a 5 point rider, but if he comes in on a 4, the BSPA have given BV a clear one point advantage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, acef said: Lidsey is unknown, but I’d bet my mortgage he’s one of the stronger reserves in the league. He’s been hyped up and for good reason. 7.68 average in the Polish 3rd tier is not a lot to shout about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 None of our team have to hit the ground running. Dimitri and Jiamon can settle into their first full season in the top flight and Dan and Steve can use track time early doors to build themselves up. If a few thrashing’s away result, it doesn’t matter especially to me as I won’t see them. If that results in us bringing in a ringer for the play offs then so be it. 21st century speedway guys get use to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, ouch said: None of our team have to hit the ground running. Dimitri and Jiamon can settle into their first full season in the top flight and Dan and Steve can use track time early doors to build themselves up. If a few thrashing’s away result, it doesn’t matter especially to me as I won’t see them. If that results in us bringing in a ringer for the play offs then so be it. 21st century speedway guys get use to it. Nothing wrong with that, just wish my own club was a bit more ruthless rather than a love-in with the rider's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 25 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: 7.68 average in the Polish 3rd tier is not a lot to shout about. The polish 3rd tier is as strong as the championship over here. So, imo, it is a lot to shout about especially when you consider it’s his first season in Poland. That type of average, in that type of league, will convert to about 5 in the premiership in a reserve berth. He’s only going to get better as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 29 minutes ago, DC2 said: His Polish average is similar to Jacobsen and Bach, which means he should be a 5 point rider, but if he comes in on a 4, the BSPA have given BV a clear one point advantage. They have. I don’t disagree. His ceiling is very high. He will average over 5 imo. The top flight now has a lot of big tracks. Only Wolves will present a challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, acef said: They have. I don’t disagree. His ceiling is very high. He will average over 5 imo. The top flight now has a lot of big tracks. Only Wolves will present a challenge. Really hard to judge a rider. Matt Szczepaniak was a 10 point rider in League 1 in 2017 and look how he did over here. Becker will fare better, has done more small track stuff. Question how will they both go when they come to the bouncy castle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, poolebolton said: Really hard to judge a rider. Matt Szczepaniak was a 10 point rider in League 1 in 2017 and look how he did over here. Becker will fare better, has done more small track stuff. Question how will they both go when they come to the bouncy castle. Becker may have done more small track but that won’t matter this year. Wolves aside, we have a lot of big tracks in the premiership. Becker will be a solid home rider. Imo he will struggle away where as Lidsey won’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 Ipswich is small as well but it has big sweeping bends nicely banked, it rides like a big track now. Gone are the days of Rye house and Lakeside, the dog track at bv etc. Peterborough is a great addition. Becker will struggle away big time. That wolves team has again been built to win at home and will be embarrassed on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Fred Flange said: The bigger long term risk is him 'mentally' being ready to race now, which could manifest itself by him trying to run (or pop wheelies on a push bike) before he can walk properly. He needs someone to hold him back until he is fully physically fit, a silly slip or bump could put his physical recovery back weeks or even months. The work needs to be structured and medically approved in terms of recuperation. I’m sure there is a plan in place there but any medical guidance will always be prone to the human element. In Dans case, that being he’s still a just a kid. A lot of 18 year olds fool around on push bikes, that type of stuff. He needs managing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said: Nothing wrong with that, just wish my own club was a bit more ruthless rather than a love-in with the rider's. pretty ruthless in 2017!! Some would say vindictive and ruthless!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Fred Flange said: The bigger long term risk is him 'mentally' being ready to race now, which could manifest itself by him trying to run (or pop wheelies on a push bike) before he can walk properly. He needs someone to hold him back until he is fully physically fit, a silly slip or bump could put his physical recovery back weeks or even months. 36 minutes ago, acef said: The work needs to be structured and medically approved in terms of recuperation. I’m sure there is a plan in place there but any medical guidance will always be prone to the human element. In Dans case, that being he’s still a just a kid. A lot of 18 year olds fool around on push bikes, that type of stuff. He needs managing. HE has that person in Steve Lawson ... top man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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