Sings4Speedway Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, Cupidstunt said: wonder where he will go now, peterborough??? Suspect it will be whatever he can get but certainly not the demands he was making. Bit disappointing as BV had been loyal to Cook for 8 years and he parts company in a strop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurRudge Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, foreverblue said: If any rider was loyal to his team it was Cook, unbelievable that they would let him go. Demands too high ? Edited December 6, 2018 by ArthurRudge Forgot question mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, ArthurRudge said: Demands too high Do you actually know that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurRudge Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 minute ago, foamfence said: Do you actually know that? No sorry I forgot to put question mark on my last post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, foreverblue said: If any rider was loyal to his team it was Cook, unbelievable that they would let him go. Wasn't Holder loyal to Poole when Ford didn't want him on that high average, and he rode for Lynn, then they wanted him back the next season on a 7. something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Find it hard to believe he heard it from a third party rather than the management, where did the so called third party get the information from be interesting to hear the management version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Very disappointed that Craig apparently won't be in the team. He has always given 100% and been loyal and to many supporters is a vital part of the club. However, I will wait for it to be confirmed and to see if there are reasons given before deciding what I think about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, DBP said: Find it hard to believe he heard it from a third party rather than the management, where did the so called third party get the information from be interesting to hear the management version. So you're calling him a liar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurRudge Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Wasn't Holder loyal to Poole when Ford didn't want him on that high average, and he rode for Lynn, then they wanted him back the next season on a 7. something Yeah but Holders a bell 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fred Flange said: When you consider the crippling financial issues caused by being forced to run on the graveyard monday night, and that Cook was the highest paid rider, it isnt that much of a surprise that he is moving on. He would have had to take a pay cut to stay whereas he will probably be offered a pay rise at his new team. Another mid table team looks on the cards which, to be fair, is more than good enough to qualify for the league cup. Â I think that with the following he has personally this could backfire on BV with reduced gates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Loyalty? I don't think I ever saw him ride for BV at Coventry because he was always riding for somebody else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, foamfence said: So you're calling him a liar? No, I said I found it difficult to believe he heard it from a third party and will wait for managements version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) 54 minutes ago, foamfence said: I think that with the following he has personally this could backfire on BV with reduced gates. If you were talking of riders such as Mauger, or Crump you might have had a point, you are having a laugh if you think cook adds to the gate, If he's pricing himself out then its time for him to go, the management have a budget and have to stick to it. Edited December 6, 2018 by DBP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenspoon Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 The team needed changing, we had become the nearly team, not quite good enough. management sometimes have to for various reasons make choices, and I will fully support the team that they select for 2019. Belle Vue could be accused of being too loyal to riders, when changes were needed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 minute ago, woodenspoon said: The team needed changing, we had become the nearly team, not quite good enough. management sometimes have to for various reasons make choices, and I will fully support the team that they select for 2019. Belle Vue could be accused of being too loyal to riders, when changes were needed. Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 The narrative on social media will be that he was shat on. I think the reality is he was potentially asking for too much coin. This rumour has been moving for a few weeks now so he knew something was in the pipeline. As has been said, costs will be cut and if Craig is wanting more then it was never going to end well. He ain’t getting his gp money now so needs to make it up. He won’t be cheap, so Peterborough will have to fork out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Wonder which club Buster will allow him to goto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 41 minutes ago, acef said: The narrative on social media will be that he was shat on. I think the reality is he was potentially asking for too much coin. This rumour has been moving for a few weeks now so he knew something was in the pipeline. As has been said, costs will be cut and if Craig is wanting more then it was never going to end well. He ain’t getting his gp money now so needs to make it up. He won’t be cheap, so Peterborough will have to fork out. Maybe Cook is finding a problem after a failed GP series and part season in POL where he also failed to impress. Don't have all the info but has he failed to find a spot in both SWE/POL with any team ?? - Also no income from SGP this time. Also with his Champ GSA is he outside the scope for most if not all the Champ sides at a GSA of 10.45 because 1) His wage demands may be too high and 2) With the new Champ team limit being reduced from 42.50 to 38 to partly discourage big hitting Prem riders doubling up and to encourage more of the young NL riders into Champ teams to fit the new limit. Perhaps he was factoring all this loss of income into his new salary/deal request. If he only rides Prem then for sure he will be poorer in 2019 one would expect, unless big hitting sponsor pays him plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Nobody really knows why Craig as been omitted from BV , high wage demands are just speculation, what I will say is that after 8 years at Belle Vue , CC was everything you’d want from a Speedway rider ... loyal , committed, gave 100% every meeting , i certainly wish him the best wherever he ends up 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Maybe Cook is finding a problem after a failed GP series and part season in POL where he also failed to impress. Don't have all the info but has he failed to find a spot in both SWE/POL with any team ?? - Also no income from SGP this time. Also with his Champ GSA is he outside the scope for most if not all the Champ sides at a GSA of 10.45 because 1) His wage demands may be too high and 2) With the new Champ team limit being reduced from 42.50 to 38 to partly discourage big hitting Prem riders doubling up and to encourage more of the young NL riders into Champ teams to fit the new limit. Perhaps he was factoring all this loss of income into his new salary/deal request. If he only rides Prem then for sure he will be poorer in 2019 one would expect, unless big hitting sponsor pays him plenty. Seems hard to imagine but a rider who featured in the GP's last year could fail to land a team spot anywhere but its entirely feasible. Goes to show that everyone has a budget and its about time some riders realised this. I have neutral feelings towards Craig so its not personal but his failings to progress outside the UK are starting to bite him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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