Billymeatus Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 Would the leagues be more competitive if we took away the "as long as we get to the play offs "mentality ?.And winning the league meant something as now means nothing, as in most sports you win the league and prove over a season you are worthy champions.Wonder how Stephen Lambert feels rides for two teams who finish top of their leagues and wins nothing !.There are cup and shield competitions ,fours ,pairs and riders championships.So no shortage of other competitions to generate income. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/23/2018 at 8:37 PM, Billymeatus said: Would the leagues be more competitive if we took away the "as long as we get to the play offs "mentality ?.And winning the league meant something as now means nothing, as in most sports you win the league and prove over a season you are worthy champions.Wonder how Stephen Lambert feels rides for two teams who finish top of their leagues and wins nothing !.There are cup and shield competitions ,fours ,pairs and riders championships.So no shortage of other competitions to generate income. whos Stephen lambert ride for then we all knew the setup before the start off season and it gets boring every year at end of season when people moan about it I actually agree top off league should be champs but that's another issue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 A more than familiar comment when a team finishing top does not go on to win or even make the final. if Peterborough had to race the league match at Arena rather than Rye House, then they would most certainly not have got four points and if Workington had managed to get all their home meetings in on time etc - it may well have been Worky top of the table. 'If' - little word, large implications! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 Being top of the league gives you the added bonus of selecting, the team that 'you feel' will give you the easiest route to the next stage,,, doesn't always pan out like that tho. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, ruffdiamond said: Being top of the league gives you the added bonus of selecting, the team that 'you feel' will give you the easiest route to the next stage,,, doesn't always pan out like that tho. I did warn them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, Taylorj said: I did warn them We knew there would be no easy route regardless of which team we selected to ride against with the amount of injured riders and very little in the way of guests available as the season draws to a close. Good luck with your quest for the 3 trophies up for grabs I think with a bit of luck you could well net them all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, New era Panthers said: We knew there would be no easy route regardless of which team we selected to ride against with the amount of injured riders and very little in the way of guests available as the season draws to a close. Good luck with your quest for the 3 trophies up for grabs I think with a bit of luck you could well net them all. Really feel for you with injuries sustained ..maybe if our fixtures weren’t screwed up mid season we all wouldn’t have been trying to cram all the main meetings in , in the last few days . Thanks for your best wishes I really hope we get some silverware for the guys who have fought tooth and nail to get us there , but hey .. the 3 teams they tried to screw over where 3 in the top 4 now that’s karma for ya 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) How about alternating it each year... 1 year it's winners of the play offs that are champions the next year it's the winners of the league and have no play offs. I'm not even sure myself if I'm serious with this one Edited October 25, 2018 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, iainb said: How about alternating it each year... 1 year it's winners of the play offs that are champions the next year it's the winners of the league and have no play offs. I'm not even sure myself if I'm serious with this one Don't knock yourself down iainb, that's one of the best stupid ideas I've read all season!! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, iainb said: How about alternating it each year... 1 year it's winners of the play offs that are champions the next year it's the winners of the league and have no play offs. I'm not even sure myself if I'm serious with this one How about having the play offs, then if play off winners and top of the league are two different teams, have a further play off between the two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 why dont we just leave it as it is ! if its not broke , dont fix it........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Give the league winners a trophy and class the play offs as a seperate competition for the best 4 teams in the league..but for gods sake get it all completed by the end of September...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, jenga said: why dont we just leave it as it is ! if its not broke , dont fix it........... I think, generally speaking, it is broke. There's a swell of opinion that league winners should be league champions and play off winners win something else, maybe a chance to have 'The Ivan Mauger Trophy' for the top 4. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, ch958 said: I think, generally speaking, it is broke. There's a swell of opinion that league winners should be league champions and play off winners win something else, maybe a chance to have 'The Ivan Mauger Trophy' for the top 4. Or a Craven Shield or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketrod Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 It’s not really broken as such, everyone knows the format. The reward for finishing top has a reward albeit a small one. Kings Lynn and Peterborough and even Mildenhall have still had fantastic seasons , it’s just the unfortunate injury situation that has done for them. For every team with bad luck there’s always someone else who will benefit not just speedway but in life itself if you think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Without Sky Tv we would never have had the play offs, it was a made for television idea because they wanted to keep the interest up for their television audience, they were more important than the fans that go in person or the sports legitimacy. But I have said it with the Elite League in the past, there is nothing to stop a bunch of Peterborough fans getting together to have a very nice trophy made that they could present to the club, they say in sports "the table doesn't lie" well Peterborough did finish top of the table and there is no law which says your not allowed to celebrate that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Why not have the team who finishes top goes straight into the final and second and third place teams race off for the other final place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Like in the Speedway of Nations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Why not have the team who finishes top goes straight into the final and second and third place teams race off for the other final place. This would work if all the fixtures were completed on time Edited October 25, 2018 by topaz325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Why not have the team who finishes top goes straight into the final and second and third place teams race off for the other final place. That is only four meetings in total. The present system gives you six (unless Lakeside and Peterborough are involved). The whole point of the play-offs is to draw in the punters in greater numbers than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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