A ORLOV Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 25 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: I don't do Facebook. Does it say he's a speedway fan Have just checked it and yes it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 Sold raffle tickets too apparently. Don't think I have ever met him but I did ask him on Facebook why he couldn't go to the Coventry matches when he said he wanted to. His answer was he wasn't allowed inside the stadium and he didn't know why as he'd done nothing wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 12 hours ago, Gemini said: Sold raffle tickets too apparently. Don't think I have ever met him but I did ask him on Facebook why he couldn't go to the Coventry matches when he said he wanted to. His answer was he wasn't allowed inside the stadium and he didn't know why as he'd done nothing wrong. I thought the name sounded familiar! I've checked my group on Facebook and he's no longer on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennylion Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 So the Lions are no longer in top tier. It'll suit some but I'm very disappointed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Leicester have dropped down to the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 C'mon Mods/Admin - change to the Championship section now. The BSPA website have already made the changes. I can't believe the speed of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bump Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 25 minutes ago, Glennylion said: So the Lions are no longer in top tier. It'll suit some but I'm very disappointed. Me too. I’d be lying if I said I’m thrilled by the prospect. Saturday night speedway beckons again too I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennylion Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Saturday night racing confirmed. May feel differently (which is unlikely) come next season but definitely not interested in a 38 point championship team even during the week let alone on a Saturday. The benefit of putting yourself out during the week to bust a gut from Birmingham was that you could still have a meal or go out with the family on a Saturday evening. The choice is family time or weakened speedway. No chance of combining the both. Whilst it may attract some (I have my doubts) Speedway is going further away from what I want and it looks like all I can do is wish the team well in my absence and thank DH and latterly the Bates family for their efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted November 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) Well I guess the promoters have their reasons for opting to join a watered down version of league racing - i.e. 38 point team limit designed to help make the 42.5 top flight teams look stronger and help the club survive on lower costs because they don't have the skill and knowledge on how to invest and PROMOTE the sport in a City the size of Leicester. And they have the audacity to call themselves "PROMOTERS" ? Pathetic! Edited November 14, 2018 by 1 valve 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 I said a couple of weeks ago that the decision that Leicester have made would please some fans with Saturday night racing and dropping to a weakened Championship It will be interesting to see what the crowds are like on Saturdays in the 2nd division as part of the reason Mr Hemsley took the club up was falling crowds on Saturday night and also rider availability 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bump Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 23 minutes ago, flagrag said: I said a couple of weeks ago that the decision that Leicester have made would please some fans with Saturday night racing and dropping to a weakened Championship It will be interesting to see what the crowds are like on Saturdays in the 2nd division as part of the reason Mr Hemsley took the club up was falling crowds on Saturday night and also rider availability The club needs success. Even at this relatively low level we’re now at. If we start losing home meetings in this league the crowds will be very low I fear. Really hoping for once the luck is with us next year and we find a winning formula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, flagrag said: I said a couple of weeks ago that the decision that Leicester have made would please some fans with Saturday night racing and dropping to a weakened Championship Yes, well done you Mystic flagrag, you're brilliant, that's exactly what you said "Saturday night racing and dropping to a weakened Championship"... Just remind me again exactly where you said this... Mystic Meg eat your heart out. What's the next post? "If what I'm hearing is correct some Lions fans are going to love the signing of the new Number 1 and they'll be surprised who's coming in at reserve?" As Venus enters Uranus Edited November 15, 2018 by iainb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 4:42 PM, flagrag said: It’s interesting to read other Leicester fans comments about the possibility of dropping down to the Championship. The question I would like to ask would you still support the club and a move down a league if the Championship was at a lower level than what it is now. For example no Nick Morris,Danny King,Craig Cook,Ricky Wells,Scott Nicholls,Rory Schlien etc but instead riders like MPT,Ben Barker,Aaron Summers,Charles Wright are your number ones with National League standard riders like Connor Mountain,Tom Brennan,Jordan Jenkins being at reserve and no2 in the team ? the crowd will increase IMHO , loads walked away when the Lions set off on Hemsleys EGO trip , and some of them will return ,with regular racing , different teams and competitions .and a much better chance of success ,most Lions fans should be looking forward to next season , 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted November 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, flagrag said: It will be interesting to see what the crowds are like on Saturdays in the 2nd division as part of the reason Mr Hemsley took the club up was falling crowds on Saturday night and also rider availability looking back. attendance dropped over time from extremely high numbers mainly to poor results and lack of real racing/entertainment - The new input of fans by and large gradually dropped away leaving the hard core (elder) speedway fan as the true supporter. Just taking a look (as I did) at the attendees and gauging their age last season would confirm this point. Since the Lions first moved from Saturdays, the track has been improved by the shortening of the straights and the introduction of banking on what are now deeper corners. This demonstratively gave the top racers more to go at around Beaumont Park & passing finally made an appearance. The team also had some mid season success at home in 2018 and the crowds helped by good weather grew and remained fairly consistent even when the run of results turned negative and the Lions were on receipt of some pretty big thumping's on their own track Now for 2019 the top boys have disappeared. The track still remains a tactical track i.e. not easy to ride meaning that as witnessed from National League racing and lower average premier league riders we will can expect to see a disappearance of passing (unless the bloke in front makes a mistake and does a wobbly) and more delays & longer meetings caused by riders falling off. One only as to go back to the last time the Lions were in Division two to confirm the latter. So yes, Lions could be more successful at home (to be seen but not hard to imagine v last 2 years) but "no" the entertainment will not improve, unless you call 4 riders being unable to control bikes for four laps entertaining....as for Saturday nights, well people have more things to choose from on Saturdays than Mondays so overall - not likely that crowds will improve greatly...but at least for the promoters it will be cheaper to run and hence a lower target for breakeven/profit. Edited November 15, 2018 by 1 valve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted November 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, flagrag said: I said a couple of weeks ago that the decision that Leicester have made would please some fans with Saturday night racing and dropping to a weakened Championship On a point of order you actually said: "Plans are well into place for 2019 which will please some fans but maybe not all will like the changes the club will be bringing" - there was no mention of dropping down or changing to Saturday. Your "Prediction" could have also run true with " staying in top flight, racing on Mondays Jason Doyle at number One and admission £25 for adults and no concessions. just saying Edited November 15, 2018 by 1 valve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Roads Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 7 hours ago, 1 valve said: looking back. attendance dropped over time from extremely high numbers mainly to poor results and lack of real racing/entertainment - The new input of fans by and large gradually dropped away leaving the hard core (elder) speedway fan as the true supporter. Just taking a look (as I did) at the attendees and gauging their age last season would confirm this point. Since the Lions first moved from Saturdays, the track has been improved by the shortening of the straights and the introduction of banking on what are now deeper corners. This demonstratively gave the top racers more to go at around Beaumont Park & passing finally made an appearance. The team also had some mid season success at home in 2018 and the crowds helped by good weather grew and remained fairly consistent even when the run of results turned negative and the Lions were on receipt of some pretty big thumping's on their own track Now for 2019 the top boys have disappeared. The track still remains a tactical track i.e. not easy to ride meaning that as witnessed from National League racing and lower average premier league riders we will can expect to see a disappearance of passing (unless the bloke in front makes a mistake and does a wobbly) and more delays & longer meetings caused by riders falling off. One only as to go back to the last time the Lions were in Division two to confirm the latter. So yes, Lions could be more successful at home (to be seen but not hard to imagine v last 2 years) but "no" the entertainment will not improve, unless you call 4 riders being unable to control bikes for four laps entertaining....as for Saturday nights, well people have more things to choose from on Saturdays than Mondays so overall - not likely that crowds will improve greatly...but at least for the promoters it will be cheaper to run and hence a lower target for breakeven/profit. Extremely disappointed to see a city of our size choose to drop down to a lower league. Very unlucky at the start of last year with injuries when many thought that they had a solid side. Others would comment that is the nature of the sport... Agree with commentary need a good start always said if start winning and see close racing then the crowds will start to return sad thing is unless there is ever major surgery to the track this shall always be limited. The comments of Saturdays to get crowds in and young kids always makes me smile I'm fortunate to have a season ticket at the city in the family stand never seems to be an issue with kids on night games. Start racing 7.30 be completed by 9pm should really not be a big issue once a fortnight surely. Be interested in the admission charges next year anyone got any inside info....hears hoping to a successful season FOR ONCE..;). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bump Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Surely they can’t charge more than say..£15 max? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Roads Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Agree. Really got to pick up there game next season with promotional incentives also. So many options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 6:36 PM, 1 valve said: Well I guess the promoters have their reasons for opting to join a watered down version of league racing - i.e. 38 point team limit designed to help make the 42.5 top flight teams look stronger and help the club survive on lower costs because they don't have the skill and knowledge on how to invest and PROMOTE the sport in a City the size of Leicester. And they have the audacity to call themselves "PROMOTERS" ? Pathetic! Completely hit the nail on the head top post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 6:36 PM, 1 valve said: Well I guess the promoters have their reasons for opting to join a watered down version of league racing - i.e. 38 point team limit designed to help make the 42.5 top flight teams look stronger and help the club survive on lower costs because they don't have the skill and knowledge on how to invest and PROMOTE the sport in a City the size of Leicester. And they have the audacity to call themselves "PROMOTERS" ? Pathetic! Wish you would have said this earlier before they dropped down ,you obviously know more about running a succesful team and making a profit than Damian Bates , there's absolutely no doubt if you had offered to cover the losses with YOUR money , Leicester would still be in the top League , as it is ,unfortunately bates seems to think therers a better chance of keeping speedway running at leicester ,with HIS money in a lower league , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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