AGM November 2018

[topaz325]

20 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

In other words nothing 

Can’t remember the details , something like gradually increasing the loading (?) on riders doubling up.

[topaz325]

Things that should have been done years ago are slowly getting through to promoters!, 

but many fans have long since left disillusioned by the sport.

Edited December 4, 2018 by topaz325

[Tsunami]

1 hour ago, topaz325 said:

5 year plan to gradually phase out doubling up .

By also insisting on the set race nights, doubling up will still exist but the nights that they double up will not be in conflict. That is in addition to your point that the league conversation rate would make it less attractive.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

45 minutes ago, topaz325 said:

Can’t remember the details , something like gradually increasing the loading (?) on riders doubling up.

All it means at the moment is the top league will get new 2nd tier riders on lower averages as the conversion increases

No existing riders will be affected whilst they continue in both leagues as the averages for each level are retained (Harris has a lower average in the Premiership than the Championship)

It will make it harder for any top tier riders not currently doubling down to do so - but realistically who that isnt already is likely to want to

[SteveLyric2]

22 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

All it means at the moment is the top league will get new 2nd tier riders on lower averages as the conversion increases

No existing riders will be affected whilst they continue in both leagues as the averages for each level are retained (Harris has a lower average in the Premiership than the Championship)

It will make it harder for any top tier riders not currently doubling down to do so - but realistically who that isnt already is likely to want to

No he doesn't - not after the Rye House adjustments.  Poole 7.78; Glasgow 7.71.  Just check the 'final' averages on the BSPA website

Edited December 4, 2018 by Skidder1

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

44 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

No he doesn't - not after the Rye House adjustments.  Poole 7.78; Glasgow 7.71.  Just check the 'final' averages on the BSPA website

Pedant  I meant higher

Makes the 1.5 conversion rate look a bit daft doesnt it

 

Edited December 4, 2018 by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv

[Tsunami]

1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

Pedant  I meant higher

Makes the 1.5 conversion rate look a bit daft doesnt it

 

Only if it was agreed that Harris rode to the same level for both his teams in the two leagues.

[Najjer]

On 12/1/2018 at 10:34 AM, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

And so the doubling up begins, for me very few positives have come out of this years agm, it’s just carry on the same ,truly have had enough of british speedway, only went to around 10 meetings in Britain last season, think it will be less next year 

 

On 12/1/2018 at 10:50 AM, Daniel Smith said:

That's the thing, the rules are there to cut doubling up but they've been ignored and just continued with using existing Championship averages.

Don't understand why you'd create such a conversion rate, which increases year on year but allow rider's to maintain existing averages, it just doesn't make any sense at all.

If riders won't be missing fixtures due to clashes of matches now, because no Championship team rides on a Monday or Thursday... Then what is the problem with doubling up?

Surely the problem has now been avoided by the fixed race nights?

[Ghosty]

8 minutes ago, Najjer said:

 

If riders won't be missing fixtures due to clashes of matches now, because no Championship team rides on a Monday or Thursday... Then what is the problem with doubling up?

Surely the problem has now been avoided by the fixed race nights?

One if the biggest problems with doubling up is you loose your team identity, your team of 7 riders are only "yours" for race night (Wednesday) come Thursday they are all racing/representing some other team! this is one area where the BSPA have lost the plot / lost control! 

[Najjer]

56 minutes ago, Ghosty said:

One if the biggest problems with doubling up is you loose your team identity, your team of 7 riders are only "yours" for race night (Wednesday) come Thursday they are all racing/representing some other team! this is one area where the BSPA have lost the plot / lost control! 

And you think preventing them from riding in the league above or below will help with that? Not when they are racing in Poland, Sweden, Denmark or wherever for the rest of the week anyway.

The biggest problem with doubling up in previous seasons has been riser availability which is a massive issue. The BSPA have actually made a positive move in addressing that by bringing in fixed  race nights. Therefore, doubling up can only be beneficial to all clubs. It allows for a greater pool of riders being available and should in turn allow for riders to lower their pay demands too. I'll use Scott Nichols as an example. He is able to earn more from riding in 2 leagues and therefore shouldn't be demanding top wonga if he was only riding in 1 league and trying to earn the same money. This should if implemented correctly should be a way of reducing costs to teams. Riders earn more, teams have more choice of riders and fans get to see their favourites at their track. What's the problem?? (Other than the ridiculous 38 points limit)