edmon Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 17 hours ago, cityrebel said: Ipswich must be one of them. Speaking with a referee recently and he suggested 2 northern clubs including one which had fingers burned a number of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 5 hours ago, cityrebel said: The way Chris Louis was talking, i thought they were up for it. They could be. I'm just assuming pirates of Poole is on about the same 2 clubs I've heard which are glasgow and Sheffield. But Sheffield already signed a rider for championship so possibly replace them with Ipswich maybe What I fear most about more teams coming up is that it will water for the product once again. Overall team average will come down no doubt. Should be 45 still. Why do clubs have to accommodate teams that refuse to speculate to accumulate and set themselves low budgets. Set it high. And if u can build a team to that limit great. If you can't. Tough, someone has to.finish bottom every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: They could be. I'm just assuming pirates of Poole is on about the same 2 clubs I've heard which are glasgow and Sheffield. But Sheffield already signed a rider for championship so possibly replace them with Ipswich maybe What I fear most about more teams coming up is that it will water for the product once again. Overall team average will come down no doubt. Should be 45 still. Why do clubs have to accommodate teams that refuse to speculate to accumulate and set themselves low budgets. Set it high. And if u can build a team to that limit great. If you can't. Tough, someone has to.finish bottom every year. Without a doubt, it will be watered down. Weaken the product and increase the admission price. A recipe for disaster. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: They could be. I'm just assuming pirates of Poole is on about the same 2 clubs I've heard which are glasgow and Sheffield. But Sheffield already signed a rider for championship so possibly replace them with Ipswich maybe What I fear most about more teams coming up is that it will water for the product once again. Overall team average will come down no doubt. Should be 45 still. Why do clubs have to accommodate teams that refuse to speculate to accumulate and set themselves low budgets. Set it high. And if u can build a team to that limit great. If you can't. Tough, someone has to.finish bottom every year. Easy to say when you are one of the teams building with the higher budgets and finishing towards the top end I wonder how those at the top would feel though if the Facennas at Glasgow and Guy Nicholls via Tru7 at Ipswich came in all guns blazing and went onto another level (both probably could if they wished) Would those then playing catch up rather than being top dogs then change their tune? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 42 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Easy to say when you are one of the teams building with the higher budgets and finishing towards the top end I wonder how those at the top would feel though if the Facennas at Glasgow and Guy Nicholls via Tru7 at Ipswich came in all guns blazing and went onto another level (both probably could if they wished) Would those then playing catch up rather than being top dogs then change their tune? They would relish the challenge I should imagine Poole wolves and belle vue don't want a points limit. They would love some other big hitters in to try and improve the TOP league Watering down the league every year hasn't helped with crowd levels. So let's try and build really good teams. I'm not stupid though I know that's not going to be a turning point for speedway in this country. The problems are much deeper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 I wonder though Phil if those that dont want a points limit now is because they are the ones that could dominate as it stands now Guy Nicholls has probably spent more on new plant for his Tru business this month that Matt Fords full asking price for Poole So far he hasnt been inclined to buy a club largely due to the restrictions in place If there were none he may do it and then Id guess perhaps some of those advocating a free reign would not be so keen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I wonder though Phil if those that dont want a points limit now is because they are the ones that could dominate as it stands now Guy Nicholls has probably spent more on new plant for his Tru business this month that Matt Fords full asking price for Poole So far he hasnt been inclined to buy a club largely due to the restrictions in place If there were none he may do it and then Id guess perhaps some of those advocating a free reign would not be so keen If the promoters do feel like that and they don't relish the competition then they don't deserve to be in the competition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: If the promoters do feel like that and they don't relish the competition then they don't deserve to be in the competition Would be great if it could get towards that level of competition and not just from a position of individual benevolence but to have that as a sustainable business proposition Thats the dream anyway..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Kev Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 8 hours ago, cityrebel said: With some of NL big hitters indicating they are staying put. I'm expecting little change next season. I will be very disapointed if the Brummies dont move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I wonder though Phil if those that dont want a points limit now is because they are the ones that could dominate as it stands now Guy Nicholls has probably spent more on new plant for his Tru business this month that Matt Fords full asking price for Poole So far he hasnt been inclined to buy a club largely due to the restrictions in place If there were none he may do it and then Id guess perhaps some of those advocating a free reign would not be so keen With the money Guy has spent on Plant this month he could probably buy British speedway....... Now there a though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Brummie Kev said: I will be very disapointed if the Brummies dont move up. What makes you think they could make it pay when previously they couldn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 11 hours ago, cityrebel said: Without a doubt, it will be watered down. Weaken the product and increase the admission price. A recipe for disaster. I am not sure about that... Just because the same business plan has been used for the past fifteen years or so and failed, doesn't mean it won't be a roaring success this time...! Maybe one day, British Speedway will be revered the World over as being one of a very select group who have proved Einstein wrong... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Brummie Kev said: I will be very disapointed if the Brummies dont move up. At the risk of losing your club, is it worth the gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Spl77 said: With the money Guy has spent on Plant this month he could probably buy British speedway....... Now there a though! Don't think that he nor anyone else with good business sense ( and the resources ) would buy a club at this point in time. It would be an asset of diminishing value ( unless you owned the stadium and land and could develop it for housing at a later date ). There seems very little real profit in currently owning and running a speedway club as the public has voted with its feet. A Thumbs Down from your likely customers is a very poor incentive to buy into the Uk speedway business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 hours ago, mikebv said: Maybe one day, British Speedway will be revered the World over as being one of a very select group who have proved Einstein wrong... A group of 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 10:49 AM, Skidder1 said: In the Redcar report in last week's Speedway Star it said the AGM was 'in Chepstow in early November'!! So I would guess 9th-11th November? ....or maybe the weekend after ie 16th-18th November now that Wolves have arranged their 'talk-in' for Monday 19th!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 It’s the 12-14th November so not a weekend strangely enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted October 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: It’s the 12-14th November so not a weekend strangely enough. Really? Where has that been printed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Pirates Of Poole said: Really? Where has that been printed? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) I wonder if Tai will be invited along for his input after the success of the GB Speedway team after they did what he'd wanted them to do for years? Edited October 18, 2018 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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