Aces51 Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) As a matter of principle it can never be the right for the authorities to sanction the breaking of rules. They should change the rule if it is shown to be stupid or unworkable. However, in this case the rule was sensible and yet all concerned agreed to ignore the rules and agreed to the use of an illegal guest. Can you imagine the headlines if this happened in a major sport and isn't that we we aspire to be. They changed the rule relating to different teams using the same guest and that was sensible, albeit embarrassing. They didn't change the guest rider rule because they knew that it is sensible to allow the additional 5% for a guest at home but not away. The logical rationale behind the rule is that the vast majority of riders have a higher home average than their GSA but the opposite applies away, where most riders have a lower average than their GSA. Edited October 28, 2018 by Aces51 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 Does anybody seriously think that "The Gang of Two" and their disciples will do anything other than what is in their own self interest? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Pirates Of Poole said: I disagree over the past decade winning team have had to be ripped apart. True, although Swindon kept 5 of theirs and the Poole team isn't that high. If the points limit is 44.5 then Poole can keep all 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted October 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, wealdstone said: Does anybody seriously think that "The Gang of Two" and their disciples will do anything other than what is in their own self interest? Nope and that is the problem, do the same as past few years and British Speedway will be finished. As normal they will try and water down and product that has continued to be watered down Over the past 8 years! Edited October 28, 2018 by Pirates Of Poole 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted October 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: True, although Swindon kept 5 of theirs and the Poole team isn't that high. If the points limit is 44.5 then Poole can keep all 7. I can ussure you it won’t be either of the latter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted October 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 The sport needs an independent panel which should be run by a commercial/promo comany who would bring fresh ideas to the sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 46 minutes ago, Pirates Of Poole said: The sport needs an independent panel which should be run by a commercial/promo comany who would bring fresh ideas to the sport. Only if they are prepared to invest? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 51 minutes ago, Trees said: Only if they are prepared to invest? Then it wouldn't be independent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Pirates Of Poole said: I can ussure you it won’t be either of the latter! Was prob wishful thinking! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brylcream boy Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 9 hours ago, wealdstone said: Does anybody seriously think that "The Gang of Two" and their disciples will do anything other than what is in their own self interest? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 18 hours ago, wealdstone said: Does anybody seriously think that "The Gang of Two" and their disciples will do anything other than what is in their own self interest? Hopefully yes as this self interest appears to be killing the sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 15 hours ago, foamfence said: Then it wouldn't be independent. How are they gonna be paid otherwise? They would have to invest in the sport as a whole until their ideas bring in revenue. Unless they could bring investment into the sport from the start via sponsorship etc but then they'd have to be on a percentage only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwright71 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 When the head of the BSPA says there is nothing wrong with the product you know the sport is stuffed. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Trees said: How are they gonna be paid otherwise? They would have to invest in the sport as a whole until their ideas bring in revenue. Unless they could bring investment into the sport from the start via sponsorship etc but then they'd have to be on a percentage only. They aren't going to be working all day or every day, in similar circumstances committees might be paid expenses or a modest fee. Most if not all of them would be likely to be retired anyway, not that it's going to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, iwright71 said: When the head of the BSPA says there is nothing wrong with the product you know the sport is stuffed. When you see the scruff or hear him speak you know the sport is stuffed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 21 hours ago, wealdstone said: Does anybody seriously think that "The Gang of Two" and their disciples will do anything other than what is in their own self interest? Which particular 'Gang of 2' are we talking about here? I'm hearing KC is stepping down?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Now, all we need to hear is RG will follow KC in standing down - Let it be confirmed as the first bit of good news for UK speedway. No eulogies needed, please. However if as is forecast there is little or no change in how UK speedway is to be structured, little progress will be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) On 10/28/2018 at 11:22 AM, Trees said: The majority of clubs keep the the majority of their team members from year to year imo Most of the club's rip their teams up during the year! Look at Poole and Leicester, the worst offenders, tbf Swindon did pretty well this year Edited October 29, 2018 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Which particular 'Gang of 2' are we talking about here? I'm hearing KC is stepping down?! Hurrah!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 18 minutes ago, iainb said: Most of the club's rip their teams up during the year! Look at Poole and Leicester, the worst offenders, tbf Swindon did pretty well this year That’s not MOST clubs .... the Stars have kept the majority of their riders from year to year, for sure 2017 to 2018 was an exception although we resigned a few of the team we ended up with plus NKI came back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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