rob tatum Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 Fantastic gp just wish more people could see it ,a half hour highlights package on terrestrial tv would be a great idea i know some gps like most sports cant be great every time but last night was really something Does anyone know if this has ever been considered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: ONLY just joined the conversion, having been lucky enough to be in Wroclaw for what I consider to be the greatest speedway meeting I have witnessed. 23 outstanding races, fantastic atmosphere inside the stadium. The skill, the speed, the courage, no better form of motorsport. Sat with former F1 driver Mark Webber and he was drooling at the spectacle. The track at the Olympic Stadium must now be consided better than even Torun and the renovations that have taken place (first went there 49 years ago to see Ivan Mauger complete his World Finals hat-trick) are tremendous. What a night... I was there too in 1970, Philip, and that for me has always been a stand-out meeting in my memory, for the atmosphere and the sheer will-to-win of Ivan, seemingly against all the odds and all that the East Europeans tried to throw at him Only able to see last night’s GP on tv, and apart from the bloody awful commentators - who added absolutely nothing to the enjoyment of the evening - this meeting will also stick in the memory for many years (God willing) Never in the history of television can there have been a more unprofessional performance from those two - you’re lucky to have missed it, Philip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Midland Red said: Only able to see last night’s GP on tv, and apart from the bloody awful commentators - who added absolutely nothing to the enjoyment of the evening - this meeting will also stick in the memory for many years (God willing) Never in the history of television can there have been a more unprofessional performance from those two - you’re lucky to have missed it, Philip Well said. Totally sick of all the "whooaaas" and How close was that". Ive heard it said that they are told by the broadcasters to make it sound exciting. Last night there was absolutely no need, the racing spoke for itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelDan Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 At last a decent GP. Last night makes you realise how dross the others have been - put these boys on a decent track and look what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Star Lady said: Well said. Totally sick of all the "whooaaas" and How close was that". Ive heard it said that they are told by the broadcasters to make it sound exciting. Last night there was absolutely no need, the racing spoke for itself. turn the sound off for christ sake. the Polish commentating team is far louder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob tatum Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 Oh well i like pearson and tatum But i am old and easily pleased 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, rob tatum said: Oh well i like pearson and tatum But i am old and easily pleased Does your surname have anything to do with your statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 Much rather listen to Nige and Kelv and their comedy banter, than the guy who does the Swedish stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Lion Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Midland Red said: Only able to see last night’s GP on tv, and apart from the bloody awful commentators - who added absolutely nothing to the enjoyment of the evening - this meeting will also stick in the memory for many years (God willing) Never in the history of television can there have been a more unprofessional performance from those two - you’re lucky to have missed it, Philip It's such a shame that when anyone looks back at recordings of what was one of the greatest GPs ever, those incredible moments will have those two with their whoas and wows as the soundtrack, unable to produce real commentary to match the high quality of the racing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 17 hours ago, chunky said: See? When people like us say that - and between us we have seen nearly everything and everyone - it shows that speedway is still an incredible sport. The thing for me tonight was not just passing and close racing; the riders were literally all over the place - at flat-out speeds - looking for the best lines, and some of the moves were absolutely breathtaking. And at times plain scary!!! Of course, it was great to have much cleaner starts, and not have multiple reruns... Steve Like us ??? that is a rather arrogant and strange comment to make???? yes the racing was from the top drawer really enjoyed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Like us ??? that is a rather arrogant and strange comment to make???? yes the racing was from the top drawer really enjoyed it. Looking for negatives again, I see??? What I mean by "like us" is old farts who have been around forever, and not only seen everything, but view what we have seen largely as neutrals. So many BSF posters can't get past their own biased opinions, and misguided views that racing was always "so much better back in the good ol' days". This meeting proved that it can be just as good, if not better! Everyone was making comments here that it was "one of the best GP's". Screw that! It was way better than that, and I wasn't scared to say it. It just makes me feel good when respected individuals like norbold (and later, Phil) share that view. I don't understand why it seems perfectly acceptable to criticise and insult people and their views on here, but if you have the audacity to stand out and say how good the modern product is (or can be, anyway), it's a no-no! Not me, I'm gonna tell it like it is. If that makes me arrogant, oh well... Steve Edited August 4, 2019 by chunky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 45 minutes ago, Leicester Lion said: those incredible moments will have those two with their whoas and wows as the soundtrack So? Does that devalue the meeting in any way? Of course not! The meeting shall be remembered (and rightly so) for the racing, not for any commentary. Is it really that bad for commentators to get excited? Anyway, I can't really say I noticed anything wrong with their commentary, as I couldn't hear them over my own "whoas" and "wows"!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 Exactly. The decibel level in my house was higher than anything Nige and Kelv could muster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 43 minutes ago, chunky said: Looking for negatives again, I see??? What I mean by "like us" is old farts who have been around forever, and not only seen everything, but view what we have seen largely as neutrals. So many BSF posters can't get past their own biased opinions, and misguided views that racing was always "so much better back in the good ol' days". This meeting proved that it can be just as good, if not better! Everyone was making comments here that it was "one of the best GP's". Screw that! It was way better than that, and I wasn't scared to say it. It just makes me feel good when respected individuals like norbold (and later, Phil) share that view. I don't understand why it seems perfectly acceptable to criticise and insult people and their views on here, but if you have the audacity to stand out and say how good the modern product is (or can be, anyway), it's a no-no! Not me, I'm gonna tell it like it is. If that makes me arrogant, oh well... Steve 43 minutes ago, chunky said: Looking for negatives again, I see??? What I mean by "like us" is old farts who have been around forever, and not only seen everything, but view what we have seen largely as neutrals. So many BSF posters can't get past their own biased opinions, and misguided views that racing was always "so much better back in the good ol' days". This meeting proved that it can be just as good, if not better! Everyone was making comments here that it was "one of the best GP's". Screw that! It was way better than that, and I wasn't scared to say it. It just makes me feel good when respected individuals like norbold (and later, Phil) share that view. I don't understand why it seems perfectly acceptable to criticise and insult people and their views on here, but if you have the audacity to stand out and say how good the modern product is (or can be, anyway), it's a no-no! Not me, I'm gonna tell it like it is. If that makes me arrogant, oh well... Steve Totally right it was a good meeting and i won't be trailing behind living in the past this year at Swindon i have enjoyed the speedway more than i have for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 I am ok with Nige and Kevin as well. Tell you what, they could make it completely boring and I reckon you would not like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Lion Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, chunky said: So? Does that devalue the meeting in any way? Of course not! The meeting shall be remembered (and rightly so) for the racing, not for any commentary. Is it really that bad for commentators to get excited? Anyway, I can't really say I noticed anything wrong with their commentary, as I couldn't hear them over my own "whoas" and "wows"!!! Although you answered your own question for yourself (and said you weren't listening to the commentary anyway, which rather negates your point), for me it devalues not only the live coverage but also the recording as a part of speedway's history. At its best, speedway is the greatest sport on the planet; those in the privileged position of being paid to commentate on it should aspire to deliver real words that befit the action, not whoas, wows and ridiculously elongating the last syllable of a rider's name. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Leicester Lion said: Although you answered your own question for yourself (and said you weren't listening to the commentary anyway, which rather negates your point), for me it devalues not only the live coverage but also the recording as a part of speedway's history. At its best, speedway is the greatest sport on the planet; those in the privileged position of being paid to commentate on it should aspire to deliver real words that befit the action, not whoas, wows and ridiculously elongating the last syllable of a rider's name. Are you really a totally humourless individual who takes everything literally? I NEVER said I wasn't listening to the commentary, and I actually was, believe it or not... I was having a bit of fun (apologies if you found it somewhat misleading), although a lot of their "whoas" and "wows" did coincide with my own! If you honestly think that the event was completely devalued by the commentary, I feel sorry for you. I have always watched speedway (live or televised) for the racing, rather than the commentary. If pronunciation is that big of an issue, then I'm sure you don't remember Tony Millard... Steve Edited August 4, 2019 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigACE Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 Every heat was exciting. You just did not know whether to watch the first 2 or the battle for 3rd. It was absolute drama. I wasnt happy with my faves though. Max is off it right now. Tai just needed to be back in action. The atmosphere was great. As for the coverage i think the commentary is better than what it is like in any other Sport. And it was staying on air for quite a long time after. Normally i am glued. I had to do a couple of things so i switched off straight after the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 Brilliant meeting! When speedway gets it right, it is the best couple of hours of sport you can get.. Went to Wrocław a few weeks ago and saw Sporta win 54-36 (sans Tai) in an up to date stadium with loads of young fans. A kid of about 10 was leading the singing at one point.. An excellent meeting, with Nige's blanket much in evidence that afternoon. Well done all around to Poland last night.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Leicester Lion said: It's such a shame that when anyone looks back at recordings of what was one of the greatest GPs ever, those incredible moments will have those two with their whoas and wows as the soundtrack, unable to produce real commentary to match the high quality of the racing. the two do a great job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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