Noodles Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: There’s two precedents set. One is to go on the meetings that have been completed. In this case, Lakeside win by 46-44. The other comes from Redcar v Glasgow last year, when a result was declared before Heat 10. The SCB took into account that even if neither Glasgow completed Heat 10, the result was still conclusive. Two 5-0s to Peterborough in Heats 9 and 10 and Lakeside would have still progressed. To be quite frank, no more time can be spent on the semi-final – it’s not fair on Workington, in particular. Workington and Lakeside need to start planning the final, which must take place next weekend. Why are you only counting heats 9 & 10 - what about heats 11-15? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRushbrook Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 Technicalities may well rule the day here but if anyone thinks that Peterborough deserve to profit from all of this by way of advancement to the final, then there really isn't too much more to say i guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Noodles said: Why are you only counting heats 9 & 10 - what about heats 11-15? I'm not. The SCB precedent last year did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, ruckerroo said: What a rotten stinking mess, just think, if rumours are true they actually want 4 or 5 sides from the national league to move up and join this shambles next season. Not a good way of selling the product is it? Nowt to do with me...but... what was wrong with say a 2 pm start?...no lights required. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, singy13 said: Not a good way of selling the product is it? Nowt to do with me...but... what was wrong with say a 2 pm start?...no lights required. A ride and slide day was held at the stadium in the afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 Rye House should make another date available, it was the stadium that Lakeside must be paying rent for that caused the meeting to be cancelled. Unfortunately any other time the meeting would have to be run again and if it can’t because Lakeside can’t stage it then Peterborough have to go through. What a total shambles of a sport though and I can’t see the Lakeside promotion being bothered to run next season at Rye either and I don’t blame them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, liam said: Rye House should make another date available, it was the stadium that Lakeside must be paying rent for that caused the meeting to be cancelled. Unfortunately any other time the meeting would have to be run again and if it can’t because Lakeside can’t stage it then Peterborough have to go through. What a total shambles of a sport though and I can’t see the Lakeside promotion being bothered to run next season at Rye either and I don’t blame them. By recent reports crowds at Rye for Hammers meetings not so good.......hopefully, and quickly, some land will be found to help them back to homeland....sure no one wants another club to perish? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMER180 Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, liam said: Rye House should make another date available, it was the stadium that Lakeside must be paying rent for that caused the meeting to be cancelled. Unfortunately any other time the meeting would have to be run again and if it can’t because Lakeside can’t stage it then Peterborough have to go through. What a total shambles of a sport though and I can’t see the Lakeside promotion being bothered to run next season at Rye either and I don’t blame them. To true rye should give us a chance of another date why not Wednesdays that's when they as a team were running and they own us big time for failing so badly since we have been there as if right we had a sparky on hand and they did refuse to use him then they owe us on that alone. maybe the promotion should get some legal advice if a contract was signed as surely as hosts rye should have made sure that the toilets had lights and loo paper it was keep clean and most important maintained properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, HAMMER180 said: To true rye should give us a chance of another date why not Wednesdays that's when they as a team were running and they own us big time for failing so badly since we have been there as if right we had a sparky on hand and they did refuse to use him then they owe us on that alone. maybe the promotion should get some legal advice if a contract was signed as surely as hosts rye should have made sure that the toilets had lights and loo paper it was keep clean and most important maintained properly. Someone on here said they were sitting surrounded by rubbish still left from Fridays meeting v Comets...surely some volunteers could help with such mundane work ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 50 minutes ago, cityrebel said: A ride and slide day was held at the stadium in the afternoon. No wonder some have said the track was so slick, we had the same issue at Lakeside whenever the track was being used during the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 The services of a track electrian should be included in the rent, but I can't find any mention of an electrician in the rule book. This is the only related comment that I can find:- HEALTH and SAFETY 5.4.1 All meetings and training sessions are subject to the Health & Safety at Work Act: Promotions, Clubs or Associate Members must carry out risk assessments on a regular basis and when requested, copies must be forwarded to the SCB, BSPA or Insurance Companies. 5.4.2 Risk Assessments must be made for all aspects of a meeting, and specifically include: a) Entrances/exits to the stadium, including the car park, lighting, signage etc. b) Movement of people and machinery in the Pits Area, and onto the Track, including plant equipment, riders, Officials, spectators and visitors) who may be on the Infield or Track and also in the event of a track racing accident. c) The safety of spectators in the public areas. If Risk Assessments are incomplete, please be aware that insurance cover may become null and void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevtheRev Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, old bob at herne bay said: Good to see as well as speedway fans arguing with each other , all the speedway “promoters” are arguing with each other. What hope is there for the sport ? Well said Old Bob. Crazy situation that just has everyone arguing. The result cannot stand, so this the needs to be resolved by the scores from just the first leg. The only logical conclusion. What really concerns me, is that we have 2 clubs - Rye and Lakeside, where the fans are bickering, arguing and not supporting their team and/or track. Which ultimately will lead to the loss of both. Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, lucifer sam said: There’s two precedents set. One is to go on the meetings that have been completed. In this case, Lakeside win by 46-44. The other comes from Redcar v Glasgow last year, when a result was declared before Heat 10. The SCB took into account that even if neither Glasgow completed Heat 10, the result was still conclusive. Two 5-0s to Peterborough in Heats 9 and 10 and Lakeside would have still progressed. To be quite frank, no more time can be spent on the semi-final – it’s not fair on Workington, in particular. Workington and Lakeside need to start planning the final, which must take place next weekend. That’s how I read it, the first part being: 2012 ELKOC QF Birmingham beat Belle Vue away 42-35: The home leg was subsequently rained off 11/10 & Birmingham went through to the SF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, KevtheRev said: Well said Old Bob. Crazy situation that just has everyone arguing. The result cannot stand, so this the needs to be resolved by the scores from just the first leg. The only logical conclusion. What really concerns me, is that we have 2 clubs - Rye and Lakeside, where the fans are bickering, arguing and not supporting their team and/or track. Which ultimately will lead to the loss of both. Crazy. Will the fans get in for free if it is re run,there won't be many there if not IMO ,they are being totally ripped off these days with 10 Ht matches and abandonments . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) If Lakeside have not got a suitable date available as stated on their web site then the BSPA have no choice but to award the tie to Peterborough Edited October 22, 2018 by Gunner85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, singy13 said: Someone on here said they were sitting surrounded by rubbish still left from Fridays meeting v Comets...surely some volunteers could help with such mundane work ? Do you, or have you, ever volunteered your services to your club? Genuine question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 54 minutes ago, Blackadder said: The services of a track electrian should be included in the rent, but I can't find any mention of an electrician in the rule book. This is the only related comment that I can find:- HEALTH and SAFETY 5.4.1 All meetings and training sessions are subject to the Health & Safety at Work Act: Promotions, Clubs or Associate Members must carry out risk assessments on a regular basis and when requested, copies must be forwarded to the SCB, BSPA or Insurance Companies. 5.4.2 Risk Assessments must be made for all aspects of a meeting, and specifically include: a) Entrances/exits to the stadium, including the car park, lighting, signage etc. b) Movement of people and machinery in the Pits Area, and onto the Track, including plant equipment, riders, Officials, spectators and visitors) who may be on the Infield or Track and also in the event of a track racing accident. c) The safety of spectators in the public areas. If Risk Assessments are incomplete, please be aware that insurance cover may become null and void. That would tend to suggest that Rye House needs an electrician to inspect and certify the lighting (And other electrical equipment) as fit for purpose before another meeting can take place there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 As a neutral, i couldn't give a monkey's either way. The thought of two more visits to Rye fills me with dread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 “We had made massive changes to our bikes “ did he he really say that with a straight face ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Jonny the spud said: “We had made massive changes to our bikes “ did he he really say that with a straight face ? Either way it has no bearing whatsoever on the circumstances involved and is not a valid argument for what might have happened . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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