Workington v Glasgow 14/10/18 7:30pm Play off.

[TotallyHonestJohn]

Just now, MANSE said:

Congratulations . Hopefully you have some shale when we  come down next year

Bring some with you as it was knee deep up there, you must have plenty to spare

Regards
THJ

[TotallyHonestJohn]

34 minutes ago, New era Panthers said:

There should be a mandate for all clubs to finish there league season by the end of august leaving all of September  for play offs and any cup action when normally you would expect the weather to be a little more helpful and October should only be used as an emergency fall back period it makes sense to try and draw fans in with prospects of warmer weather and daylight travelling. Yes you are correct it is a shambles but when have the BSPA done anything to improve the sport regarding fixtures which after accepting they then want to get them cancelled because it suits their individual needs as opposed to doing what is right and proper thing to do

You're going to get wrong making sensible statements like that..... Honestly

Regards
THJ

[MANSE]

10 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Bring some with you as it was knee deep up there, you must have plenty to spare

Regards
THJ

Should you not have said ankle deep,thought you raced  speedway on shale not concrete 

[MANSE]

5 hours ago, Mr Blobby said:

More a happy clapper than a manager

Just failed to defend  13 points lost by 14.Your manager couldn't defend 28 points lost by 32 also your no 1 scored 7 for you and scored 13 for us I think that tells us must prefer riding for MR BROWN

Edited October 16, 2018 by MANSE

[jenga]

50 minutes ago, MANSE said:

Congratulations . Hopefully you have some shale when we  come down next year

we had some new shale put down a few weeks back and it wasnt stolen, how about that  ?

thank to every workington fan who filled their pockets (joking) seriously tho . lol . its on the worky facebook and its not fake shale .

if any more is put down , it will be knee deep .

dear me , almost forgot to thank Glasgow for our k10 rider  . thanks again to the management of Glasgow . truly , madly and deep in love with magic, mercury , mason campton . (in a nice way ) of course .

Edited October 16, 2018 by jenga
tech allows me to do it .

[cinderfella]

1 hour ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Honestly

I haven't got a clue why but for what ever reason the Aussie championships have been brought forward a full month, someone may be able to enlighten us as to why this has happened this year but it hasn't done Worky any favours at all

Regards
THJ

Maybe the Aussies are learning from the Poles and telling their riders what to do and where their priorities should lie. Maybe time we learned to do the same?

[TotallyHonestJohn]

1 hour ago, MANSE said:

Should you not have said ankle deep,thought you raced  speedway on shale not concrete 

Never let a good bit of exaggeration go to waste, but go on I will give you that one ankle deep, and Worky is set on a clay sub base and what spoiled the home meeting for me was all the riders wanted the dirt line where the shale was and it was only Rasser Ty and Mason who were prepared to get into the shale for a bit drive, the third and fourth bends were working well but they needed to be brave to do it, hence Rasser trying the "Wall of Death" routine up a bouncy castle, just didn't work when he run out of room, but I think there were less falls in the Worky meeting than the Glasgow one, Stand to be corrected on that one too

1 hour ago, MANSE said:

Just failed to defend  13 points lost by 14.Your manager couldn't defend 28 points lost by 32 also your no 1 scored 7 for you and scored 13 for us I think that tells us must prefer riding for MR BROWN

That will be Ricky and Jordan on the shopping list for next year then

27 minutes ago, cinderfella said:

Maybe the Aussies are learning from the Poles and telling their riders what to do and where their priorities should lie. Maybe time we learned to do the same?

Cant disagree and with Brexit its only gonna get worse not better, maybe time to "honestly" promote and invest in local talent and British riders and Worky have definitely done their part on that score

Regards
THJ

[IronScorpion]

17 hours ago, magnus said:

A bit off topic but....

Comets face Lakeside in a double header on Saturday and it still leaves two other finals they have to ride for. Whats the situation and the potential facility on offer to Workington, should time run out and they are unavailable, due to having to go home and try to qualify for another season back in British Speedway 2019. (Please don't say NL guest, as that will make an absolute mockery to British Speedway)...

Depends what the rules say!

We tried to sack a rider & we were not re-declaring but giving opportunities to other riders...........Nothing in the rules but the SCB blocked it.

M Riss decides he has had enough not scoring enough points & citing previous injury to go home...........Nothing in the rules but 2 teams granted facilities.

Season ends end of October & Aussie Titles brought forward more than 2 months from normal January meetings. 2 riders want to return home for a chance of a top 3 position to gain visa's for 2019 even though there are 4 Titles to enter...........Nothing in the rules so will probably be granted a facility.

[Alan_Jones]

2 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Honestly

I haven't got a clue why but for what ever reason the Aussie championships have been brought forward a full month, someone may be able to enlighten us as to why this has happened this year but it hasn't done Worky any favours at all

Regards
THJ

 

35 minutes ago, IronScorpion said:

Depends what the rules say!

We tried to sack a rider & we were not re-declaring but giving opportunities to other riders...........Nothing in the rules but the SCB blocked it.

M Riss decides he has had enough not scoring enough points & citing previous injury to go home...........Nothing in the rules but 2 teams granted facilities.

Season ends end of October & Aussie Titles brought forward more than 2 months from normal January meetings. 2 riders want to return home for a chance of a top 3 position to gain visa's for 2019 even though there are 4 Titles to enter...........Nothing in the rules so will probably be granted a facility.

 

The Aussie championships aren't until the beginning of January but the Victoria State Championship (Proctor) is on the 27th of this month. Top 4 in either qualifies for a visa. Can't find a date for NSW (Campton).

Sacking a rider is changing the team and so not allowed after the cutoff date. A rider withholding his services is covered by the guest rules, as is a rider returning home to ride if their FMN has an agreement with the BSPA, which I would assume MA has.

[cinderfella]

3 hours ago, New era Panthers said:

There should be a mandate for all clubs to finish there league season by the end of august leaving all of September  for play offs and any cup action when normally you would expect the weather to be a little more helpful and October should only be used as an emergency fall back period it makes sense to try and draw fans in with prospects of warmer weather and daylight travelling. Yes you are correct it is a shambles but when have the BSPA done anything to improve the sport regarding fixtures which after accepting they then want to get them cancelled because it suits there individual needs as opposed to doing what is right and proper thing to do

So is there a valid argument that the teams must finished their regular league campaign before the teams for the play-off are decided so it's a level playing field? In which case we should go back to just a regular season and then if wanted another wee money making Mickie Mouse competition for the teams with guests?  If we go to one league there probably wouldn't be time for a play-off based title decider anyway.

Just out of interest were the winners of the CL play-offs not meant to race against the bottom PL team for the right to race in the PL next season? My old memories keeps trying to tell me I read that somewhere pre-season along with all the stuff about Glasgow being unbeatable. 

[Fromafar]

3 hours ago, New era Panthers said:

There should be a mandate for all clubs to finish there league season by the end of august leaving all of September  for play offs and any cup action when normally you would expect the weather to be a little more helpful and October should only be used as an emergency fall back period it makes sense to try and draw fans in with prospects of warmer weather and daylight travelling. Yes you are correct it is a shambles but when have the BSPA done anything to improve the sport regarding fixtures which after accepting they then want to get them cancelled because it suits there individual needs as opposed to doing what is right and proper thing to do

Total self interest  rules in BSPA,things will never change( except the rules as they go alone).

[cinderfella]

Re season ending dates, lets remember we had more rain-off at the beginning of this season than ever before so we were always going to be playing catch up.
Just one other point, and this is as a speedway fan not a Scot, how many teams postponed fixtures because dates clashed with the World Cup or other football matches and thus wasted good, available dates?
 

[Fromafar]

3 minutes ago, cinderfella said:

Re season ending dates, lets remember we had more rain-off at the beginning of this season than ever before so we were always going to be playing catch up.
Just one other point, and this is as a speedway fan not a Scot, how many teams postponed fixtures because dates clashed with the World Cup or other football matches and thus wasted good, available dates?
 

Most clubs have have an alternative night for rain Off's that they can use a number of times during the season,therefore the should be forced to re arrange a rain off within a certain timescale (2 weeks) or concede the tie.At this stage of the season there should only be the Play offs to complete ,not all 3 competitions.

[cinderfella]

1 minute ago, Fromafar said:

Most clubs have have an alternative night for rain Off's that they can use a number of times during the season,therefore the should be forced to re arrange a rain off within a certain timescale (2 weeks) or concede the tie.At this stage of the season there should only be the Play offs to complete ,not all 3 competitions.

Quite agree when you consider the Shield started the season and then the KO Cup started in April/May. As been said elsewhere you really have to examine thing when you can get one team completed all it's competitive fixture in August and now others are going to be struggling, through no fault of their own, to complete theirs.

As regards alternative race nights we have to consider that the BSPA changed the goal posts mid season and stopped some teams racing on alternative days.

[mac101]

4 hours ago, MANSE said:

Just failed to defend  13 points lost by 14.Your manager couldn't defend 28 points lost by 32 also your no 1 scored 7 for you and scored 13 for us I think that tells us must prefer riding for MR BROWN

Maybe if had given him ht 15 at Glasgow we might have one the playoff 

[Mr Blobby]

6 hours ago, MANSE said:

Just failed to defend  13 points lost by 14.Your manager couldn't defend 28 points lost by 32 also your no 1 scored 7 for you and scored 13 for us I think that tells us must prefer riding for MR BROWN

Our riders couldn’t defend a 28 point lead our manger doesn’t ride the bike neither does yours. 

Just means he learnt from his previous visit nothing to do with who’s in charge, he might of had a few more in the first leg if MR BROWN choose him in heat 15 and you wouldn’t be out of the competition. Oh well

[Gazc]

18 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said:

Our riders couldn’t defend a 28 point lead our manger doesn’t ride the bike neither does yours. 

Just means he learnt from his previous visit nothing to do with who’s in charge, he might of had a few more in the first leg if MR BROWN choose him in heat 15 and you wouldn’t be out of the competition. Oh well

Choosing him in heat 15 still wouldn't guarantee we would still have been in the competition does it Blobby, unless you have been out drinking wine with those gypsy's again and they told you this as they seen it in there crystal ball. 

[Fromafar]

13 hours ago, singy13 said:

One league is certainly gonna see off many veterans.

Must be an awful decision to make having enjoyed the thrills of such a dangerous sport........could always get a job with Deliveroo though - express service guaranteed.

The only way Harris will pack it in is if Promoters refuse his pay demands.

ps

I don't know what he gets paid, but I'm certain it is too much for the crowd levels he attracts nowadays. His effort at Workington on Sun was poor,but I'm sure he will blame his Machinary or set up.

[Rayleigh]

5 hours ago, Fromafar said:

The only way Harris will pack it in is if Promoters refuse his pay demands.

ps

I don't know what he gets paid, but I'm certain it is too much for the crowd levels he attracts nowadays. His effort at Workington on Sun was poor,but I'm sure he will blame his Machinary or set up.

 don't worry now you have challenged the delicate flower he will have a list of excuses as long as the straights at Berwick,

If you think he is "passed" it (no crime as all riders do eventually, except Hancock)  Glasgow fans just remember him hunting down and overtaking Jason Doyle in heat 15 to win the play off match, the man still clearly has it, well for some clubs.

[Mr Blobby]

7 hours ago, Gazc said:

Choosing him in heat 15 still wouldn't guarantee we would still have been in the competition does it Blobby, unless you have been out drinking wine with those gypsy's again and they told you this as they seen it in there crystal ball. 

Correct but a far better chance of getting more points in that race.