Steve Shovlar Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 3 hours ago, g13webb said: I wouldn't bet on it . He has ridden our track well in the past and only recently scored 11pts when used as a guest. In that 1st leg every race he tried to jump the start and subsequently got warned & excluded, Yes I appreciate the had 2 race wins but only when we were 18 pts adrift. when the team got back into contention he conveniently went missing again.. In the second leg at Lynn he was seen consistently shutting off so early going into that first bend, ensuring he was never in contention. So noticeable, it stood out a mile. Matt Ford is such an astute manager, I'm in not doubt he had all these bases covered. Probably that accounted for the big smile on his face all evening... Jesus you are making some libellous accusations. Why on earth would Adam Ellis ride poorly on purpose against Poole? He looked like he was trying and most certainly wouldn’t had wanted to let the team he was riding for down. Remember, it is difficult for a guest to ride in a meeting like this when riders attached to both clubs are riding at 120% of their capabilities. Your are coming over as a very bad loser. Accept that Poole were just the better team and the Kings Lynn ridrs all tried their hearts out but came up short. Totally and utterly.......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Sometimes Me Webb comes out with a load of old squit on here which embarrasses other Lynn fans and that post about Adam Ellis is right up there with them. Dear me. Very bad loser who is embarressing himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 hour ago, lisa-colette said: Poole had a fair bit of good luck and Lynn had a lot of bad luck. That's all there is to it. To suggest Adam wasn't scoring points on purpose so Poole would have a better chance of winning, is quite frankly ridiculous! He doesn't really have a connection to the club, so I don't really get it. Kings Lynn had plenty of luck in the second leg. If the same things had gone Poole’s way there would be dozens of pages about it. But none of it is mentioned because it doesn’t fit the agenda. Jorgensen going over the white line. Rollers for both KL riders in heat 12. Unsatisfactory start when Jorgensen rode into Morris.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 43 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Jesus you are making some libellous accusations. Why on earth would Adam Ellis ride poorly on purpose against Poole? He looked like he was trying and most certainly wouldn’t had wanted to let the team he was riding for down. Remember, it is difficult for a guest to ride in a meeting like this when riders attached to both clubs are riding at 120% of their capabilities. Your are coming over as a very bad loser. Accept that Poole were just the better team and the Kings Lynn ridrs all tried their hearts out but came up short. Totally and utterly......…. Too true, I'm probably the worlds worse loser but I make no apologies for take. I will also agree the Lynn riders gave their all, and cannot complain of the effort they applied. They didn't deserve to be on the losing side.. I will also agree how difficult it must be for any guest to join in at the final stage of any competition. which adds to the question why use them. It appeared we bent over backward to sort out a bad ruling on guests , at the expense of making our team weaker,... and Poole team stronger.... Just another convenience that is hard to swallow.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 hour ago, bellevueace said: Poole had a big dose of good luck over the semi and final but I don't think Ellis purposely went out to be as bad as he was, wonder how he feels in himself having let the Stars down so badly? As for Poole in football parlance their name was on the cup, similar to when Man U won the Champions league againt Bayern, these things happen in sport. Good init.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 Speedway matches are often filled with what if moments, magnified over a two legged Final, it's harder to take as a Trophy was up for grabs, personally I think KL should have used RR and relied on their riders who were in form. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 17 minutes ago, noggin said: Speedway matches are often filled with what if moments, magnified over a two legged Final, it's harder to take as a Trophy was up for grabs, personally I think KL should have used RR and relied on their riders who were in form. Agree. Kings Lynn caused mayhem ore the first leg by going for a rider already booked by the other team. Poole backed down and allowed Kings Lynn to use Ellis in both legs for the good of the sport. What happened was simply karma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 hour ago, g13webb said: Too true, I'm probably the worlds worse loser but I make no apologies for take. I will also agree the Lynn riders gave their all, and cannot complain of the effort they applied. They didn't deserve to be on the losing side.. I will also agree how difficult it must be for any guest to join in at the final stage of any competition. which adds to the question why use them. It appeared we bent over backward to sort out a bad ruling on guests , at the expense of making our team weaker,... and Poole team stronger.... Just another convenience that is hard to swallow.. Well the guest situation is all KL's own doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Jesus you are making some libellous accusations. Why on earth would Adam Ellis ride poorly on purpose against Poole? He looked like he was trying and most certainly wouldn’t had wanted to let the team he was riding for down. Remember, it is difficult for a guest to ride in a meeting like this when riders attached to both clubs are riding at 120% of their capabilities. Your are coming over as a very bad loser. Accept that Poole were just the better team and the Kings Lynn ridrs all tried their hearts out but came up short. Totally and utterly.......... I don't agree at all with g13webb's comments but what did you say about Belle Vue when Mark Riss told Ipswich, who then told Belle Vue, that he was going to end his season and return home to Germany. You went into meltdown calling us cheats and saying we should race with one reserve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Aces51 said: I don't agree at all with g13webb's comments but what did you say about Belle Vue when Mark Riss told Ipswich, who then told Belle Vue, that he was going to end his season and return home to Germany. You went into meltdown calling us cheats and saying we should race with one reserve. A dodgy decision when the playoffs were upon you and it would be what all riders strive for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted October 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) What an earth has happened to the Somerset v King's Lynn KO Cup thread could have sworn it was here somewhere.All it seems to be now is the Steve Shovlar side show. Trying to get it back on course now,i'm hoping Lynn try to get Charles Wright to guest for MPT especially for this trip to Somerset.He does ride well there and may have the added incentive to do well with what went on earlier in the season. Edited October 13, 2018 by tellboy 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: A dodgy decision when the playoffs were upon you and it would be what all riders strive for. Anybody with even a basic knowledge of the sport could see that the guests available were far from guaranteed to make us any stronger and I can certainly understand, even if you can't, that a rider suffering a lack of confidence after an injury and a series of falls wouldn't want to add to the mental pressures by riding in the play offs. Apologies tellboy but certain posters sometimes need to be reminded of what they have said when they criticise others for doing the same. Hopefully, now back to the post topic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 29 minutes ago, tellboy said: What an earth has happened to the Somerset v King's Lynn KO Cup thread could have sworn it was here somewhere.All it seems to be now is the Steve Shovlar side show. Trying to get it back on course now,i'm hoping Lynn try to get Charles Wright to guest for MPT especially for this trip to Somerset.He does ride well there and may have the added incentive to do well with what went on earlier in the season. Nothing to do with me. G13webbs rantings caused the subject to get off topic. Best of luck to either team. Looking forward to beating whoever wins at the start of next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 Yep, let’s get this back to the cup final, it’s got nothing to do with the Play Offs or Poole. Would Charles Wright fit? Would be a good choice if so as rides both tracks well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted October 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 33 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Yep, let’s get this back to the cup final, it’s got nothing to do with the Play Offs or Poole. Would Charles Wright fit? Would be a good choice if so as rides both tracks well. He most certainly does Bagpuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbiter Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 is this televised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedybee Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Would Charles Wright fit? Would be a good choice if so as rides both tracks well. Would love to see a last blast from Charles Wright before the season finishes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 Just now, Orbiter said: is this televised? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 13 hours ago, g13webb said: Employing guests to cover for injured riders should be the way to go, but they need to be of a reliable nature, not someone like Ellis who clearly had other intentions. Had we used R/R in the second leg, after his obvious performance in the first, we would have won that Play-offs no problems. I will never understand the reasons why Lynn used a guest who had so much history with Poole... With Robert, Rizz , Proctor and TJ all going well , they would always score more than a dubious guest.... I hope NKI is fit to ride, but if not, don't lets go down that same road as last week. Leave it to our own riders who wont let you down...... That is a serious accusation, bordering on liable. Don’t see any Poole connection / allegiance with Adam. Quite the opposite reading papa’s posts. You also ridiculed NKI for riding in a benefit meeting for a very sadly disabled legend. Kings Lynn will fight another day but it’s nothing compared to the painful, daily challenges Tomasz has in the years to come. Thought you were better than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 Mr Webb has proved on several occasions that he is most certainly not better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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