idh Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 Isn't this thread Somerset v King's Lynn KO Cup final / Kings Lynn v Somerset KO Cup final. How about getting back on track any other topics start a new thread 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 9 hours ago, stevebrum said: Congratulations to the Rebels. Well deserved. Have to feel some sympathy for Stars fans who were the best team over the full season. 8 hours ago, Steve0 said: Kings Lynn did not cause anything - the rules (as was) permitted them to use Adam Ellis in the first leg at Poole - they didn’t (and still don’t) allow Poole to use Nick Morris at Kings Lynn. I don’t have any agenda either but what I can’t stand is a team (any team - including Swindon) that benefits from a blatant disregard of the rules. As I have said, Poole could have legally used RR and won with a legal team - and I would have congratulated them for that. However, they chose to include an ineligible rider according to the rules and a team that benefits from ignoring the rules are cheats! QED You would never have congratulated Poole no matter what. At least admit it. 8 hours ago, Steve0 said: I agree it’s a risk but Poole were up for it and would easily have scored what Nick scored - and possibly more and would have been deserving champions We are deserving Champs. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make our victory any less. And Poole fans will not lose any sleep over the Morris situation as it wasn’t of our making. If we had named Morris as our guest in the second leg without Kings Lynn booking Ellis it would have been a different story. But we all know, including yourself, that wasn’t the case. 8 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: You know full well that King's Lynn caused the situation. When King's Lynn announced Ellis the whole forum went into meltdown about how embarrassing it would make the sport look by having a guest appear for 2 different teams in a final. Blame is only at the door of the King's Lynn management for the whole debacle of the Play-Offs. Glad to see a Kings Lynn fan see it how it was. Well done that man. 2 hours ago, tellboy said: I have said this to many friends at work to re the play-offs and they find that a turn off and what's the point.Yet some of them have found the actual racing on tv quite good. Is speedway the only sport where the actual winners of the league actually get nothing.In many other sports i know they have play-offs but the league winners are mainly rewarded for their seasons achievement in the form of a trophy are they not No. Both the Swedish and Polish leagues are playoff winners take all. As are many sports inc American Football. Every year when the table toppers don’t win it we get the usual ‘we are the champs” bleating. Back in 2010 it happened to Poole who were 20 plus points ahead of Coventry. I don’t think we had any Poole fans saying “we are the real champs”. We just sucked it up and came back the following season and won it again. Kings Lynn had a good season but all they won was the right to have first pick in the semi, and the pic for second leg of final at home (with rich financial rewards) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 6 hours ago, waytogo28 said: I think that is a very likely possibility as some promoters don't think much of the BT deal. Maybe not.. If the £3k live meeting thing is indeed true. I doubt it covers the loss on the gate. But it is a way of getting speedway out there I guess. It was said that Sky money was pretty big, but it didn't seem to do much. I don't know where all the money went ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Maybe not.. If the £3k live meeting thing is indeed true. I doubt it covers the loss on the gate. But it is a way of getting speedway out there I guess. It was said that Sky money was pretty big, but it didn't seem to do much. I don't know where all the money went ? Riders' pockets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Alan_Jones said: Riders' pockets. If that was the case, there must be a lot of riders who took hefty pay cuts since the Sky money stopped ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 23 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Maybe not.. If the £3k live meeting thing is indeed true. I doubt it covers the loss on the gate. But it is a way of getting speedway out there I guess. It was said that Sky money was pretty big, but it didn't seem to do much. I don't know where all the money went ? Clubs do not get £3k per live meeting. They all get £13k per season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: If that was the case, there must be a lot of riders who took hefty pay cuts since the Sky money stopped ! Perhaps that’s why Iversen has been riding so crap! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Steve Shovlar said: Perhaps that’s why Iversen has been riding so crap! Along with Kurtz... Less than a point away from being a Poole reserve ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Clubs do not get £3k per live meeting. They all get £13k per season. I did say "if indeed true" . That's a bit better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted October 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 27 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: No. Both the Swedish and Polish leagues are playoff winners take all. As are many sports inc American Football. Every year when the table toppers don’t win it we get the usual ‘we are the champs” bleating. Back in 2010 it happened to Poole who were 20 plus points ahead of Coventry. I don’t think we had any Poole fans saying “we are the real champs”. We just sucked it up and came back the following season and won it again. Kings Lynn had a good season but all they won was the right to have first pick in the semi, and the pic for second leg of final at home (with rich financial rewards) I did say is it only in speedway the actual winners of the league actually get nothing,isn't the Polish and Swedish leagues you a referring to Speedway How can you bring American football into this,or any American sport.Most of that is regionalised.Blimey American football starts with 8 divisions of 4 teams.4 from the AFC and 4 from the NFC.There is no way they can have a champion without play-offs.Then there is a trophy handed out to the NFC champion and one to the AFC champion.Then obviously one handed out to the superbowl champions.Totally different to having one division i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 42 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: If that was the case, there must be a lot of riders who took hefty pay cuts since the Sky money stopped ! Hence the massive escalation in doubling up in recent times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: You would never have congratulated Poole no matter what. At least admit it. Steve, don’t make yourself look silly. I congratulated Poole on the victory when it happened. would you like to apologise now or shall I show you up with the quote? Choice is yours. edit.. it’s on page 23 of the 2nd leg thread. Even liked by you. Think before you accuse someone of false information in future. An apology will suffice tho. Edited October 19, 2018 by stevebrum Added info 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 Good luck 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, stevebrum said: Steve, don’t make yourself look silly. I congratulated Poole on the victory when it happened. would you like to apologise now or shall I show you up with the quote? Choice is yours. edit.. it’s on page 23 of the 2nd leg thread. Even liked by you. Think before you accuse someone of false information in future. An apology will suffice tho. It wasn’t you I was referring to. Please read my post again. Edited October 19, 2018 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: It wasn’t you I was referring to. Please read my post again. Which makes why you quoted me completely baffling. Care to enlighten? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 29 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Which makes why you quoted me completely baffling. Care to enlighten? I was responding to Steve0. I missed the response to your post out for some reason (distracted) but was going to say ‘possibly, but you don’t necessarily win trophies by being the best team over the course of the season’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: I was responding to Steve0. I missed the response to your post out for some reason (distracted) but was going to say ‘possibly, but you don’t necessarily win trophies by being the best team over the course of the season’. Thanks for clarifying Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 8 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: I was responding to Steve0. I missed the response to your post out for some reason (distracted) but was going to say ‘possibly, but you don’t necessarily win trophies by being the best team over the course of the season’. What a statement. But every team strives to be the best team, wanting to win those spoils. With these playoff, now it all boils down to LUCK over those 2 matches This could be the reason why fans are losing interest and disappearing. Play-off may be a financial benefit to the winning team but it does nothing for the integrity of the sport.. If the public cant understand the happenings, what chance is there of them wanting to come and watch... The only reason fans come and watch the final, is because the rest of the season has been rendered unimportant... Probably if there were more importance placed on league racing, the support would be more favourable ... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 42 minutes ago, g13webb said: What a statement. But every team strives to be the best team, wanting to win those spoils. With these playoff, now it all boils down to LUCK over those 2 matches This could be the reason why fans are losing interest and disappearing. Play-off may be a financial benefit to the winning team but it does nothing for the integrity of the sport.. If the public cant understand the happenings, what chance is there of them wanting to come and watch... The only reason fans come and watch the final, is because the rest of the season has been rendered unimportant... Probably if there were more importance placed on league racing, the support would be more favourable ... I believe Since July when Harris joined, Poole were the strongest team in the league, with a better 3 and 4 and much better reserves. And so it proved. About time you congratulated the Champions on our 8th title since the millennium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted October 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 10 hours ago, stevebrum said: Which makes why you quoted me completely baffling. Care to enlighten? See he couldn't even say"sorry i messed up there didn't i".First thing he makes it out as your fault,read the post again will you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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