Sherborne Green Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, iainb said: Everybody knows who won it... Question is are they the poorest team ever to do so? Agree there are no Turbo Twins anymore but the top riders have abandoned GB. Poole beat the best of the rest. Why not accept that we have what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinsgirl Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, Mediman said: So what does that make every other team ......... not the chamions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinsgirl Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 This is the best team in history to win the league , no other team in history had to work under this year's rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, tyretrax said: Thought the answer could only be yes or no. No, don't think it says that anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediman Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 Tomorrow’s news will show Poole as champion so will the record books. This season is now over and rather than moan or complain or gloat we should hope that the powers that be give the fans a better product next year. With leagues in Poland ,Sweden ,Denmark attracting the star names we need to do something combine the top 2 leagues north and south possibly 6 man teams play offs all have to be considered . comiserations to Kings Lynn on the night with a full team different story in Lambert you have the best British youngster and British speedway needs to keep the likes of him and Dan Bewley on these shores however the money on offer may well be a major factor 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 It is what it is. The standard is so low now, top flight racing in this country doesent exist anymore. This years championship level will probably be next seasons top league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 I would have said whoever won the league this year would just have been the best of a bad bunch, that is just down to the watering down of the product season after season. Next season really is make or break for the sport in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 3 hours ago, cityrebel said: It is what it is. The standard is so low now, top flight racing in this country doesent exist anymore. This years championship level will probably be next seasons top league. What i find ridicules is that both leagues seem to be at the same level. Why then do we have two leagues, with nearly all the same riders bar a few. Surly now is the time to make one big league. At least it will stop the ridiculous sight of riders riding for two teams. Maybe then the sport will start to recover a little. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinsgirl Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 6 hours ago, bellevueace said: Next season really is make or break for the sport in this country. Which is what was said last year... Fans don't seem to have any leverage to make a difference. How do we get the sports management to want to 'forward' the product rather than themselves? Just keep chipping away I imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Arthur54 said: Everyone is jealous, get over it. Poole pirates the 2018 premier league champions The most disappointing thing Arthur is I think hardly anyone is jealous.. If your team win a national competition you should be delighted... If your team fail to win a national competition you should be disappointed... Sadly winning a national speedway competition in Britain brings very little positive or negative reaction as deep down us fans know it's just far too contrived and Mickey Mouse ran to be taken seriously... 'Everyone is apathetic, get over it, Poole Pirates the 2018 Premier League Champions' may have been a more accurate comment... Edited October 11, 2018 by mikebv 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, robinsgirl said: Which is what was said last year... Fans don't seem to have any leverage to make a difference. How do we get the sports management to want to 'forward' the product rather than themselves? Just keep chipping away I imagine. Fans' leverage? Stop going... You could argue that tens of thousands may have already stopped and nothing has changed....? But it's different now.. Whilst fans left in their droves, Promoters didnt listen, because quality could be cut to reduce costs, and inflation busting price rises were being accepted by those left who still attended. Attending in 'just enough' numbers.. Now, those numbers are no longer 'just enough'... Now, the quality cannot be cut much further... And now, inflation busting price rises will take the cost of entry to ridiculous levels for what is actually on show... It really is at its 'tipping point'... Fans by their attendance are endorsing what they are watching and giving Promoters the green light to keep doing more of the same.. Fans by their attendance are colluding with Promoters that the competition they are watching is a credible one.. And fans by their attendance are getting the sport their endorsement and collusion deserve so shouldn't moan about it.. Customers are a very powerful group in business. Maybe it's time for speedways customers to harness that power and use it for positive change? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 The play offs do add an extra element that there is no doubt, but it is very strange having a system whereby the top four of only a seven team league races for the top prize, based on that the team that finished 4th, technically didn't even finish in the top half of the table and that you had more teams in the end of season competition to win the league than those who failed to make it. Seven teams- should have been straight final for the top two only, to have four teams in the play offs, you really need at least nine or more clubs involved in the actual league, otherwise its get even more farcical. just my opinion of course. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 8 hours ago, Sherborne Green said: Agree there are no Turbo Twins anymore but the top riders have abandoned GB. Poole beat the best of the rest. Why not accept that we have what we have. The other way round SG. GB speedway abandoned the top riders. As the sport elsewhere moved on, GB speedway stayed still or, even worse, went backwards. 4 hours ago, tyler42 said: What i find ridicules is that both leagues seem to be at the same level. Why then do we have two leagues, with nearly all the same riders bar a few. Surly now is the time to make one big league. At least it will stop the ridiculous sight of riders riding for two teams. Maybe then the sport will start to recover a little. That chestnut again. The gap between the leagues is narrowing with every passing year no doubt but gap there still is. First 30 yards tells the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 I think its great, all the Poole bashing by the usual suspects all season long and they are now crowned league champs. Uk speedway is fcuked we all know that , and theres no coming back from it. If Ford had any sense he would bow out on a high . as for what has he actually got to sell apart from a few assets and tractors, the fact he has a buisness that attracts over 1500 paying customers a week will probably be another good selling point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 I went to both legs, and racing wise they were pretty poor meetings. The crowd at Lynn last night was excellent, which proves the play offs still have appeal with the paying public. Getting those people to turn up on a regular basis, is another matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, Pinny said: as for what has he actually got to sell apart from a few assets and tractors, the fact he has a buisness that attracts over 1500 paying customers a week will probably be another good selling point Are you Matt Ford's accountant or is the racing that boring at Wimbourne road you count heads every meeting. Where is the proof to back up the 1,500 "paying" customers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, MARK246 said: Are you Matt Ford's accountant or is the racing that boring at Wimbourne road you count heads every meeting. Where is the proof to back up the 1,500 "paying" customers Just going on what their fans say. It clearly is a profitable buisness therefore I would imagine quite a few people, whether thats current or former promoters or newbies, would be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, Pinny said: Just going on what their fans say. It clearly is a profitable buisness therefore I would imagine quite a few people, whether thats current or former promoters or newbies, would be interested. If it was profitable and sustainably profitable why sell. Only an accountant could tell if it's a viable concern, terrace talk means nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, MARK246 said: If it was profitable and sustainably profitable why sell. Only an accountant could tell if it's a viable concern, terrace talk means nothing Because he has been there years and as he says, wants a new challenge. Many buisnesses that make a profit have been sold on. Are you seriously telling me that you think Poole Speedway runs at a loss? There will be a queue of people looking at taking it off Fords hands if it becomes available , same cant be said for many of the other clubs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, Pinny said: Because he has been there years and as he says, wants a new challenge. Many buisnesses that make a profit have been sold on. Are you seriously telling me that you think Poole Speedway runs at a loss? There will be a queue of people looking at taking it off Fords hands if it becomes available , same cant be said for many of the other clubs. Ford said last night it was available for anyone to make him an offer. In the current economic climate, there won’t be a queue of people looking to take it off his hands. Speedway as a sport in the UK is on its knees - anyone would be mad to invest in a speedway club - unless they had very deep pockets and were prepared to lose money! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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