Sings4Speedway Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 35 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: so Ipswich cannot use drew Kemp as he has a assessed championship average yet kings Lynn can use Andersen who also has a assessed championship average. And premierships clubs wonder why nobody wants to join this corrupt league. Don't forget that Kemps "assessed" base average doesn't qualify on the conversion rate as he would have to be 4.5 or more in the Champs (we all know the bitter irony that one more meeting changes everything) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 39 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: so Ipswich cannot use drew Kemp as he has a assessed championship average yet kings Lynn can use Andersen who also has a assessed championship average. And premierships clubs wonder why nobody wants to join this corrupt league. Drew Kemp is ruled out by the magnitude of his average, not the fact it is assessed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 30 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: so Ipswich cannot use drew Kemp as he has a assessed championship average yet kings Lynn can use Andersen who also has a assessed championship average. And premierships clubs wonder why nobody wants to join this corrupt league. Nothing corrupt about it. Kasper comes in on a 4.00 assessed average which he had with King's Lynn in 2018. Due to not completing enough meetings due to injury, he will maintain his 4.00 assessed average. There is however a problem with him doubling up. The BSPA announced from the AGM that doubling up isn't possible in the Premiership unless the rider has an established average of more than 4.50 in the Championship. Kasper should only be allowed in 1 league with either King's Lynn or Sheffield. It should go with who signed him first. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: Drew Kemp is ruled out by the magnitude of his average, not the fact it is assessed. Are you able to confirm the regulation please Neil Is my understanding re Andersen correct and/or has it altered for 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Nothing corrupt about it. Kasper comes in on a 4.00 assessed average which he had with King's Lynn in 2018. Due to not completing enough meetings due to injury, he will maintain his 4.00 assessed average. There is however a problem with him doubling up. The BSPA announced from the AGM that doubling up isn't possible in the Premiership unless the rider has an established average of more than 4.50 in the Championship. Kasper should only be allowed in 1 league with either King's Lynn or Sheffield. It should go with who signed him first. Did they not say that a rider cannot ride in the Premiership unless he has an Established average over 3. They must have changed the rule to allow a rider to do both leagues if his assessed average allows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Did they not say that a rider cannot ride in the Premiership unless he has an Established average over 3. They must have changed the rule to allow a rider to do both leagues if his assessed average allows. How many matches did Andersen ride for Sheffield last year as the GSA doesn’t list this detail, perhaps the MC have assessed his GSA on what he actually rode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: How many matches did Andersen ride for Sheffield last year as the GSA doesn’t list this detail, perhaps the MC have assessed his GSA on what he actually rode. 2 H and 3 A i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: Did they not say that a rider cannot ride in the Premiership unless he has an Established average over 3. They must have changed the rule to allow a rider to do both leagues if his assessed average allows. There are a lot of question marks over Kasper Andersen. The rule is clear that an established average has to have been achieved in the Premiership/Championship to be able to double up. Then, as the conversion rate is 1.5 Andersen is 4 in the Premiership, it must mean he's a 6 for Sheffield and not the 5.20 of last season. That'll also take Sheffield almost half a point over the Championship limit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 As kasper lined up for Sheffield last year on a 5.2 that’s what he will start on at Sheffield. Presuming he signed for Sheffield first rather than kings Lynn then I guess it’s a 6 otherwise Clear as mud !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: There are a lot of question marks over Kasper Andersen. The rule is clear that an established average has to have been achieved in the Premiership/Championship to be able to double up. Then, as the conversion rate is 1.5 Andersen is 4 in the Premiership, it must mean he's a 6 for Sheffield and not the 5.20 of last season. That'll also take Sheffield almost half a point over the Championship limit. Can you please point me in the direction of the 2019 rules!!? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: There are a lot of question marks over Kasper Andersen. The rule is clear that an established average has to have been achieved in the Premiership/Championship to be able to double up. Then, as the conversion rate is 1.5 Andersen is 4 in the Premiership, it must mean he's a 6 for Sheffield and not the 5.20 of last season. That'll also take Sheffield almost half a point over the Championship limit. That`s last years rule in your 2nd line - we do not have the 2019 rules !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLFAN Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, racers and royals said: That`s last years rule in your 2nd line - we do not have the 2019 rules !! If Kasper is 5.2 for Sheffield does that mean he is 3.46 for King's Lynn (5.2 divided by 1.5) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, KLFAN said: If Kasper is 5.2 for Sheffield does that mean he is 3.46 for King's Lynn (5.2 divided by 1.5) ? Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: There are a lot of question marks over Kasper Andersen. The rule is clear that an established average has to have been achieved in the Premiership/Championship to be able to double up. Then, as the conversion rate is 1.5 Andersen is 4 in the Premiership, it must mean he's a 6 for Sheffield and not the 5.20 of last season. That'll also take Sheffield almost half a point over the Championship limit. Don't be daft - he rode for Sheffield last season on a 5.20, so will retain that average. Likewise, he will retain his 4.00 with King's Lynn. I think it's probably unique for a new rider to compete for two different teams, and not do enough meetings with either to gain a new average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: Don't be daft - he rode for Sheffield last season on a 5.20, so will retain that average. Likewise, he will retain his 4.00 with King's Lynn. I think it's probably unique for a new rider to compete for two different teams, and not do enough meetings with either to gain a new average. Jonas Jeppesen too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Jonas Jeppesen too..... Nearly unique then The point is, that if a rider competes in a league, and doesn't do enough meetings to gain an average in that league, then he retains that average, even if the conversion factor changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Can you please point me in the direction of the 2019 rules!!? Buster!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 32 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: Nearly unique then The point is, that if a rider competes in a league, and doesn't do enough meetings to gain an average in that league, then he retains that average, even if the conversion factor changes. But that's a nonsense. You can't just start a new season with new rules with a out dated previous seasons assessed average. That's just bonkers. The averages assessed for both Premiership and Championship must be the same. Multiply or divide the conversion. 2019 is a new season and rider's on assessed averages then revert to the current season. Kasper should be 4.00 Premiership and 6.00 Championship. Taking Sheffield's average over the limit by 0.42. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 The revised conversions agreed are a mess and a sham and a continuation of the same old balls up we see year in year out 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 55 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: Nearly unique then The point is, that if a rider competes in a league, and doesn't do enough meetings to gain an average in that league, then he retains that average, even if the conversion factor changes. Would Bartosz Zmarzlik ride in the Premiership on his average he rode for Birmingham on ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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