stevehone Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 31 minutes ago, g13webb said: but Polish speedway is a proven schedule of what should be done . Surely following their example should be our first step forward. If we could replicate them and put on a professional show and good racing , most of those people you talk of would give it another go. Running the same old all the time does nobody any favours what are Poland doing different to the UK, other than having government funded teams and purpose built stadia? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Ward Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 7 hours ago, AlexBrady said: Appreciate your comments, I don't believe age has anything to do with it but whilst we're on the topic - I'm 27 and have been watching Lynn most weeks since I was 6, so 2 decades worth i think qualifies me to comment. Alongside being a Stars fan, I'm also a Norwich City fan who have also never, even won the 'main' trophy. Whats the difference between the two? Communication I appreciate is not as good as other sports, but what do you want the Club to say? If they announce the team now in 1 hit, would we not have the same feeling you mention, because there would be nothing to talk about in January, February and Early March until the season begins? Again, I may be wrong but I can't really say I've noticed a difference in the time a meeting takes to run from when I first understood times etc in early teens to now - and I travel now 138 mile round trip to watch the Stars, as opposed to around 90 when i first started going. I was speaking to someone involved in Speedway yesterday and we were discussing how to improve the sport and he raised a great point. He said that if we asked 100 people how to 'solve' speedway, and he felt there would be 100 different answers, and that multiple answers would contradict others - so how DO you keep everyone happy? Simple answer is, you can't! Prices on everything in every walk of life has gone up over the years, including my NCFC season ticket (Which has gone up by around 18% in the last 5 years) so I'm sorry, but I don't buy this argument that the prices have gone up by £1 or £2 as a reason why people don't go. Not intended to ruffle feathers at all, but my view is that so many people are enjoying predicting the death of British Speedway, that when it inevitably happens, these same people can take joy in saying I told you so. Alex Brady what a breath of fresh air you are. All I can say is that is the Kings Lynn thread post of the year 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, stevehone said: what are Poland doing different to the UK, other than having government funded teams and purpose built stadia? Polish speedway is the epitome of organisation. every thing is run to a time table. Four races is quick succession then an interval. pop to the loo, or dash to the shop, even enough time to quench you thirst. At the same time the track is given a good going over. Right on the dot the racing starts again. Everybody knows the schedule, the Riders, the fans, the referee, and the meeting flows so fluently. I except the track are tailor made to suit the high powered bikes, but the shale they use generates exciting races... No sooner is one race finished the riders are out for the next. Of cause the spectacle is better, but that is because the way it is organised and not because of better riders... The TV are at every meeting where they can advertise sponsors in every interval . More sponsors, more money; More TV goes out to encourage more fans. From your comment you obviously think they are very similar, but to me they are a million miles apart…. We sure have a lot to learn from them Poles... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, g13webb said: Polish speedway is the epitome of organisation. every thing is run to a time table. Four races is quick succession then an interval. pop to the loo, or dash to the shop, even enough time to quench you thirst. At the same time the track is given a good going over. Right on the dot the racing starts again. Everybody knows the schedule, the Riders, the fans, the referee, and the meeting flows so fluently. I except the track are tailor made to suit the high powered bikes, but the shale they use generates exciting races... No sooner is one race finished the riders are out for the next. Of cause the spectacle is better, but that is because the way it is organised and not because of better riders... The TV are at every meeting where they can advertise sponsors in every interval . More sponsors, more money; More TV goes out to encourage more fans. From your comment you obviously think they are very similar, but to me they are a million miles apart…. We sure have a lot to learn from them Poles... And of course they know that family friendly Sunday's is the time to offer the product for maximum potential ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, g13webb said: Polish speedway is the epitome of organisation. every thing is run to a time table. Four races is quick succession then an interval. pop to the loo, or dash to the shop, even enough time to quench you thirst. At the same time the track is given a good going over. Right on the dot the racing starts again. Everybody knows the schedule, the Riders, the fans, the referee, and the meeting flows so fluently. I except the track are tailor made to suit the high powered bikes, but the shale they use generates exciting races... No sooner is one race finished the riders are out for the next. Of cause the spectacle is better, but that is because the way it is organised and not because of better riders... The TV are at every meeting where they can advertise sponsors in every interval . More sponsors, more money; More TV goes out to encourage more fans. From your comment you obviously think they are very similar, but to me they are a million miles apart…. We sure have a lot to learn from them Poles... as BluPanther put, wouldn't it be nice to have a Sunday to be able to push the top league for that exposure, not a Monday or Thursday. what do they do in Poland when there's a crash, don't they get held up? maybe they seem quicker because they have the 2 minute clock and know where they stand with it, and isn't that happening over here next year? tracks are PURPOSE BUILT as i said, which means they are ready for speedway, they don't have to rely on renting a stadium that is used for bangers or greyhounds, so other than everyone in the UK building their own track, what is your solution? i think some people might be blinkered thinking that if the top riders in the world are riding then the racing will be better, when that definitely is not the case. basically, that "million miles apart" is down to them having purpose built tracks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 4 hours ago, stevehone said: what are Poland doing different to the UK, other than having government funded teams and purpose built stadia? Not to mention a nice big deal from a TV company so plenty of money to invest in their clubs ...... they have fans who are proud and love their clubs, good job given that plenty of money from any 'council tax' type payments they make goes to their clubs! Can you imagine that happening in the UK!! One day that will change in Poland 100%! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, Trees said: Not to mention a nice big deal from a TV company so plenty of money to invest in their clubs ...... they have fans who are proud and love their clubs, good job given that plenty of money from any 'council tax' type payments they make goes to their clubs! Can you imagine that happening in the UK!! One day that will change in Poland 100%! there WILL be a big financial crash in Polish speedway, there are teams that struggle to pay riders now, give it time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 9 hours ago, stevehone said: ,there WILL be a big financial crash in Polish speedway, there are teams that struggle to pay riders now, give it time Many posters have pillars my comments for negativity, yet You and 'Trees 'are doing exactly the same . The positives from the way Poland run their meetings are many yet you go on about a expected financial crash, We all know the riders are holding the sport to ransom and are paid too much, but that shouldn't distract anything away from the professional show they put on.. The performance would be just as impressive if they were to use similar riders as we do in the UK. I wonder if they used the TV money to balance the books, or do they use it to promote the sport . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 TV meetings in UK are usually run pretty slickly! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 3 hours ago, g13webb said: Many posters have pillars my comments for negativity, yet You and 'Trees 'are doing exactly the same . The positives from the way Poland run their meetings are many yet you go on about a expected financial crash, We all know the riders are holding the sport to ransom and are paid too much, but that shouldn't distract anything away from the professional show they put on.. The performance would be just as impressive if they were to use similar riders as we do in the UK. I wonder if they used the TV money to balance the books, or do they use it to promote the sport . Balance the books almost certainly. The new TV contract for the Extraleague is for serious money !!!(N sport and Eleven sport) for 2019 /2021 is reportedly worth 60 Million ZL as against 25 Million for the period 2016-18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 7 hours ago, racers and royals said: Balance the books almost certainly. The new TV contract for the Extraleague is for serious money !!!(N sport and Eleven sport) for 2019 /2021 is reportedly worth 60 Million ZL as against 25 Million for the period 2016-18 No doubt the advertising spots in the programme more than makes up for the outlay. Forward thinking is imperative when promoting a top entertainment. You cant knock Polish speedway for holding all the aces... Probably, when the UK ruled the world, we should have been more proactive in keeping our lead, instead of taking it for granted... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, g13webb said: No doubt the advertising spots in the programme more than makes up for the outlay. Forward thinking is imperative when promoting a top entertainment. You cant knock Polish speedway for holding all the aces... Probably, when the UK ruled the world, we should have been more proactive in keeping our lead, instead of taking it for granted... And more promoters should have bought stadiums instead of wasting the money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: And more promoters should have bought stadiums instead of wasting the money. Step forward Buster Chapman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 10 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Step forward Buster Chapman Putting finances aside, It is not important to the fans who owns the stadium, there only concern is the entertainment that is promoted. You could have the best venue in the country , but if the show was rubbish it would remain empty.. I have always praised Buster for his acquisition of Saddlebow Road, and the constructional changes he has made. It is of my opinion AFA is equal, if not better than any other venue in the country. What a pity the same cant be said about the actual track... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Connor Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/19/2018 at 7:25 AM, g13webb said: Many posters have pillars my comments for negativity, yet You and 'Trees 'are doing exactly the same . The positives from the way Poland run their meetings are many yet you go on about a expected financial crash, We all know the riders are holding the sport to ransom and are paid too much, but that shouldn't distract anything away from the professional show they put on.. The performance would be just as impressive if they were to use similar riders as we do in the UK. I wonder if they used the TV money to balance the books, or do they use it to promote the sport . At least they didn’t mention your age 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 Doesnt matter who owns it or what work has been done it wil be forever Compost Corner to some of us 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 This puts one rumour to bed, Iversen does indeed still live in the UK, just been on a 5 week holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: This puts one rumour to bed, Iversen does indeed still live in the UK, just been on a 5 week holiday. Did have a little giggle to myself when someone put that rumour on here.Some people don't half post some rubbish.Can't remember who started this particular one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: This puts one rumour to bed, Iversen does indeed still live in the UK, just been on a 5 week holiday. Honeymoon/ Holiday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLFAN Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 How about the following for the initial team R Lambert 8.91 NKI 7.38 E Riss 6.08 T Jorgensen 6.07 R Worrall 5.60 M Palm Toft or L Kerr 5.36 (2.5% reduction allowed for L Kerr) S Lambert 3.00 Total 42.40 I have included S Lambert for the moment as restricted by averages but hopefully as things progress changes could be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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