Bagpuss Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 3 hours ago, g13webb said: I don't like this chopping and changing. We use to have a team that lasted the season, no we didn't win anything , but it was our team we could relate with. I always frown at other clubs who chopped and changed to get the upper hand and thought it was wrong they could do that. But it now appears we are doing the same thing. Its little wonder the fans are staying away, How can you have a connection with a team when it changes every month.... In a way I agree with you as the amount of changes Poole for example have made in recent years is ridiculous but for Lynn this year no more changes means no away wins, probably a home defeat or two and no Play Offs. I’m sure the vast majority of us would prefer to see us at least have a go at getting fourth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 57 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: In a way I agree with you as the amount of changes Poole for example have made in recent years is ridiculous but for Lynn this year no more changes means no away wins, probably a home defeat or two and no Play Offs. I’m sure the vast majority of us would prefer to see us at least have a go at getting fourth. Never mind about having a go at getting fourth, I want to see us have a go at getting to the top of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 38 minutes ago, mrss said: Never mind about having a go at getting fourth, I want to see us have a go at getting to the top of the league. Good luck with that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3Scotty Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, mrss said: Never mind about having a go at getting fourth, I want to see us have a go at getting to the top of the league. We did that last year........And still ended up 2nd....A top 4 spot is a realistic target and then try and do a Poole special in the play-offs....With the right team changes, its very acheivable...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) I seem to recall back in the day Lynn got rid of Gary Middleton, Oily Nygren and Trevor Hedge in one season. Think it was the same season that Micheal Lee made his debut when doubling with Boston. Edited June 23, 2019 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 10 hours ago, tellboy said: This is why i said the only way to get both in is,Douglas for Proctor now or before the end of June.Douglas will then be on 4.65.Then in July the team average will be 39.83.So 2.67+3.34=6.01 you can easily get Riss in for Lambert.You have to get rid of Proctor while he's on his June average and bring in Douglas while he's on his June average to make it work. Nice work Tell. Get on the blower !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 7 hours ago, semion said: I seem to recall back in the day Lynn got rid of Gary Middleton, Oily Nygren and Trevor Hedge in one season. Think it was the same season that Micheal Lee made his debut when doubling with Boston. Good Friday, 1975 Lee made his debut for the Stars because two riders fail to arrive, but Lynn didn't get rid of Gary Middleton nor Trevor hedge until the end of that season. both rode a full season for the Stars and were released at the end of 75. Ollie Nygren was only employed as a temperpory rider to cover for the injured Eddie Reeves . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 At the end of the day, the Stars nearly done what they have been trying to do for over 50 years, in 2018.. Topped the league, and was unlucky with late injuries. Buster said he was going all out to go one better in 2019.. Then he bought 2 more clubs and his beloved Stars came to the back of the cue. And that's where we are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, g13webb said: Good Friday, 1975 Lee made his debut for the Stars because two riders fail to arrive, but Lynn didn't get rid of Gary Middleton nor Trevor hedge until the end of that season. both rode a full season for the Stars and were released at the end of 75. Ollie Nygren was only employed as a temperpory rider to cover for the injured Eddie Reeves . Lee made his debut against Leicester then rode for the rest of the season, so who did he replace ? Also didn’t The Magdalen Maestro come in that season as well ? Will check the record book when I’m back home. I also seem to recall on another occasion Carl Glover came in late one season to replace, was it Paul Tyler for the K.O. Cup final ? Edited June 23, 2019 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 6 hours ago, semion said: Lee made his debut against Leicester then rode for the rest of the season, so who did he replace ? Also didn’t The Magdalen Maestro come in that season as well ? Will check the record book when I’m back home. I also seem to recall on another occasion Carl Glover came in late one season to replace, was it Paul Tyler for the K.O. Cup final ? Right or wrong, I always thought of Boston as Lynn's reserve team, as so many of the riders were signed up for both teams.. When I made the comment about team changes during the year I wasn't including Boston riders for that reason. Gagan, Hollingworth, Bales, Glover, Burton, Smith, all fell into that category.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 When you played Football Webbo, did they move the goalposts for you ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 9 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: At the end of the day, the Stars nearly done what they have been trying to do for over 50 years, in 2018.. Topped the league, and was unlucky with late injuries. Buster said he was going all out to go one better in 2019.. Then he bought 2 more clubs and his beloved Stars came to the back of the cue. And that's where we are. You keep coming out with this back of the queue thing but I just don’t think it’s true.....from the word go pretty much everybody predicted Ipswich would finish bottom of the pile and also that Peterborough would join them once Harris and Cook had been removed. Lynn were widely thought to be the strongest of the three in paper albeit also not in the Play Offs. Also Cook has ended up at Lynn rather than one of the other two. I would agree though that spreading his resources three ways has impacted what he could spend on Lynn’s team, although it’s pretty certain there would be no Premiership if he hadn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: it’s pretty certain there would be no Premiership if he hadn’t. Would that have been such a bad thing? It seems inevitable. When not if. And the TV "advert" ( of BT live matches ) provides more of a disincentive to go and watch a match in a stadium near you. If it goes on next year it would be better to show every team in their away match at the NSS, in order for it to tempt any new fans in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: Would that have been such a bad thing? It seems inevitable. When not if. And the TV "advert" ( of BT live matches ) provides more of a disincentive to go and watch a match in a stadium near you. If it goes on next year it would be better to show every team in their away match at the NSS, in order for it to tempt any new fans in. If one big league could be done properly I think that would be great for British speedway, unfortunately I think the financial disparity between the haves and the have not means that there would be enormous gulfs between teams and it would be a very lopsided league. It would need to be done much, much better than 1995 that’s for sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, semion said: When you played Football Webbo, did they move the goalposts for you ? Yeah, I can see where you're coming from, but Lynn use to use them as make-shift replacements on the cheap, not to the point of making the team stronger. The majority of those were Lynn assets anyway so it made sense to use what you had. So the Goalposts didn't really move from that first comment.. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: It would need to be done much, much better than 1995 that’s for sure. There is little guarantee that that would happen as the same "Senior Figures of UK Speedway" are still in charge of policy. Not that we can see any positive results from their policies of the last few years. We can only pray that better,. more interesting and attractive speedway racing does survive in the UK. Even if Buster bought "the Jewson lot" it is likely he would "manage" it all as he does now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Bagpuss said: You keep coming out with this back of the queue thing but I just don’t think it’s true.....from the word go pretty much everybody predicted Ipswich would finish bottom of the pile and also that Peterborough would join them once Harris and Cook had been removed. Lynn were widely thought to be the strongest of the three in paper albeit also not in the Play Offs. Also Cook has ended up at Lynn rather than one of the other two. I would agree though that spreading his resources three ways has impacted what he could spend on Lynn’s team, although it’s pretty certain there would be no Premiership if he hadn’t. Maybe back of the queue isn't the right word Baggy. I don't think Lynn would of started this season without back up for Robert if Buster had not bought the other 2 clubs. It must of affected what team he put together at Lynn, as you agreed, that's for sure. I know there wouldn't be Prem speedway if he didn't buy the others, and had to share out 21 riders. I have stuck up for him on the Panthers threads for trying to save the league, when some Panthers fans have moaned about him and their team, although doing far better than the Stars so far. It just frustrates me after last season's efforts and a promise to try and go one better in 2019. That's all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: If one big league could be done properly I think that would be great for British speedway, unfortunately I think the financial disparity between the haves and the have not means that there would be enormous gulfs between teams and it would be a very lopsided league. It would need to be done much, much better than 1995 that’s for sure. Well there wouldn’t be as bigger gap between the haves and the have nots as there was in 1995 as most of the top riders have turned there back on the UK - Lambert could well do that next season if he gains a permanent GP place and take Doyle away as well it’s the championship in all but name any way - the downside to one big league will be not enough meetings for some riders - Buster with out doubt saved the PL this season and saved the TV contract with BT but from what I’ve witnessed it’s more likely to put fans off going other than meetings from the NSS the meetings have been poor . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnboy Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 I see Broc Nicol was practising after the meeting tonight is he looking to stake a team place I wonder ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, lynnboy said: I see Broc Nicol was practising after the meeting tonight is he looking to stake a team place I wonder ??? I take it with him still on a 4pt average in the Championship he would come in on a 3pt average in the PL.That's indeed if Lynn are looking at him.But i did see him practicing,needs to keep his front wheel down though it will be grippier at ht 2 rather than after the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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