Skidder1 Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Aviator said: Hopefully the Chairman of the BSPA will give him his P45 for bringing both the sport and KL into disrepute... He did it with Chris Holder so no reason why Cook shouldn't be treated at least the same!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: He did it with Chris Holder so no reason why Cook shouldn't be treated at least the same!!!! I think the sacking of Holder was more to do with what Holder called Chapman than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Aviator said: Hopefully the Chairman of the BSPA will give him his P45 for bringing both the sport and KL into disrepute... He was representing Glasgow at the time not KL. Were you at the Eastbourne meeting? Yet you have decided he is guilty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, Steve0 said: He was representing Glasgow at the time not KL. Were you at the Eastbourne meeting? Yet you have decided he is guilty A rider represents whoever he is under contract to. In this case I believe the rider is under contract to two clubs and is therefore an “ambassador” to both of those clubs no matter who he happens to be riding for on a particular night!! If I were the chairman of the BSPA I would not want an “ambassador” who behaves in this manner working in the sport for which I am responsible and, certainly not riding for one of my clubs!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, Aviator said: A rider represents whoever he is under contract to. In this case I believe the rider is under contract to two clubs and is therefore an “ambassador” to both of those clubs no matter who he happens to be riding for on a particular night!! If I were the chairman of the BSPA I would not want an “ambassador” who behaves in this manner working in the sport for which I am responsible and, certainly not riding for one of my clubs!!! Again - you have him “convicted” having not witnessed anything yourself 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Steve0 said: Again - you have him “convicted” having not witnessed anything yourself Are you saying then that he didn’t behave as has been witnessed by those at Arlington? Were you there? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Skidder1 said: He did it with Chris Holder so no reason why Cook shouldn't be treated at least the same!!!! Ahhhh, so now we are getting to the bottom of why you keep running on about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Well, the matter is being investigated by the SCB, who have requested witness statements from various people so if there's any truth in it Cook will be in serious trouble I would think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 20 hours ago, Steve0 said: Again - you have him “convicted” having not witnessed anything yourself I was there. He's snookered unless there is some dodgy goings on behind the scenes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hans fan Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 minute ago, BlackPanther said: As Del Boy would say Lovely Jubbly. Hopefully the BSPA will throw the book at Cook and he gets banned for a couple of years. no fan of cook but he looks like he didn't see the flagman and what kind of bloke walks straight in front of cook when cook wasn't looking at him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Well that’s not half as bad as described on the meeting thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeratheart Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Its clear the Marshall walks into Craig and it looks like more of a shoulder shove than an alleged head butt, still should not have happened though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, hans fan said: no fan of cook but he looks like he didn't see the flagman and what kind of bloke walks straight in front of cook when cook wasn't looking at him Looked like Cook saw the flag man late and didn't have time to react. Hard to say from the vid.He was only doing 10mph. If I were that bloke I would have moved way before then. The bloke must of seen and heard the riders coming. Looked 50/50 to me. But the headbutt/ shoulder barge what ever it was, was way out of order. Edited August 5, 2019 by Bald Bloke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tigeratheart said: Its clear the Marshall walks into Craig and it looks like more of a shoulder shove than an alleged head butt, still should not have happened though. You must be kidding right ? Typical of society these days. Just face up to it he clearly head butts him no alleged here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Well that’s not half as bad as described on the meeting thread. It did carry on tho obviously. I put a screen grab of my video showing how many got involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeratheart Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: You must be kidding right ? Typical of society these days. Just face up to it he clearly head butts him no alleged here. Maybe where your from you would class that as a head butt but you can clearly see Craig's shoulder dropping giving him a barge, as I stated it should not have happened in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 53 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Looked like Cook saw the flag man late and didn't have time to react. Hard to say from the vid.He was only doing 10mph. If I were that bloke I would have moved way before then. The bloke must of seen and heard the riders coming. Looked 50/50 to me. But the headbutt/ shoulder barge what ever it was, was way out of order. I agreewith th 50/50 assessment but if Craig didn't see him from the apex of the turn then that's a poor show and although he clearly steers to his right the marshall goes that way too, force a rider to turn right and they run the risk of the footrest digging in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Tigeratheart said: Its clear the Marshall walks into Craig and it looks like more of a shoulder shove than an alleged head butt, still should not have happened though. All started by the actions of the Marshall who should NOT be standing in the middle of the track flagging. Completely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, stevebrum said: All started by the actions of the Marshall who should NOT be standing in the middle of the track flagging. Completely wrong. BS SteveBrum. The marshall was there because the ref had put the red lights on as soon as Cook and 2 others broke away from the riders and mascot presentation parade which is held on the back straight at Arlington. This was on turn 2 with Cook having already ridden bends 3, 4 and 1 as well as the main straight with the red lights on!! Flag marshall was only doing what is instructed. In any case with the SCB Co-Ordinator there to witness it all as well as the ref's report, then the SCB hearing will doubtless clarify everything - and take everything into account including the Glasgow owner's public apology on the microphone for his riders' actions. Edited August 6, 2019 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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