g13webb Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 14 hours ago, Trees said: You haven't heard the kids who ring in following the football... I best add KLFM, all the local newspapers, twitter, Facebook and Instagram.... come on Haza, I know what you're gonna say now, only over 50s read newspapers! You can't say the same about Instagram All those media outlets and the fans are told nothing. That just illustrates the shear incompetence of the Promotions of Lynn Speedway.... Back in time, before we had all these media outlets, we knew far more news then we do now... and that takes a bit of believing... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, g13webb said: All those media outlets and the fans are told nothing. That just illustrates the shear incompetence of the Promotions of Lynn Speedway.... Back in time, before we had all these media outlets, we knew far more news then we do now... and that takes a bit of believing... Absolutely spot on - we got more information back in the day when all we had was the local press and the Speedway Star - a lot of people blamed Marc Gent when he was in charge of press release and social media for lack of information and I was one of them but clearly it wasn’t his fault - I’ve never known any business to take its customers for granted in this way and it’s a very dangerous game to play in my view . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Haza said: Absolutely spot on - we got more information back in the day when all we had was the local press and the Speedway Star - a lot of people blamed Marc Gent when he was in charge of press release and social media for lack of information and I was one of them but clearly it wasn’t his fault - I’ve never known any business to take its customers for granted in this way and it’s a very dangerous game to play in my view . My club Ipswich has gone from being one of the first to announce the team in one go in November to being the last to sort the team. Social media interaction was very good previously and that’s changed for the worse. Its 2019 not 1978. People can access information instantly and expect to so why drag out announcements on riders. I could accept one per day for a week but this is crazy. You are alienating your regular customers for what ?? 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 54 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: My club Ipswich has gone from being one of the first to announce the team in one go in November to being the last to sort the team. Social media interaction was very good previously and that’s changed for the worse. Its 2019 not 1978. People can access information instantly and expect to so why drag out announcements on riders. I could accept one per day for a week but this is crazy. You are alienating your regular customers for what ?? Spot on. It really is bizarre and all they’re doing is pi$$ing off the dwindling support they still have left. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Spot on. It really is bizarre and all they’re doing is pi$$ing off the dwindling support they still have left. quite agree I remember a few years ago when lakeside announced all there riders on a video all in one go I thought that was very affective . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Well if Kings Lynn management like drip feeding why not offer it back to them? Send them an email telling them you will attend this season's matches but only if you can drip feed paying for admission. Lets say an offer to pay £5.00 on the day of the match and a further £ 3.00 each day after until paid in full. If they like drip feeding so much they should love this offer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, ray c said: quite agree I remember a few years ago when lakeside announced all there riders on a video all in one go I thought that was very affective . BETTER, in my opinion, to have three bites of the cherry and announce them one by one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 3 hours ago, g13webb said: All those media outlets and the fans are told nothing. That just illustrates the shear incompetence of the Promotions of Lynn Speedway.... Back in time, before we had all these media outlets, we knew far more news then we do now... and that takes a bit of believing... What exactly do you mean by "the fans are told nothing"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Trees said: What exactly do you mean by "the fans are told nothing"? Pretty obvious really. Four rider places left, four names not told to fans. Basically that's all fans want to know in the close season. Don't say fans are told about fitness training cos be honest who the hell cares that they are training in a gym, unless you follow gymnastics. just my opinion Edited February 3, 2019 by Star Lady 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: BETTER, in my opinion, to have three bites of the cherry and announce them one by one. But leave a cherry too long and it goes mouldy. By the 3rd bite the taste isnt that attractive I can understand every few days over a period of time or even week by week til around Christmas Once a month from November and less than half the team announced by February though doesnt do it for me 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 At the end of the day the club can’t control who listens to Radio Norfolk and KLFM or reads the EDP and Lynn News but they have to cover those angles. However they could and probably should be doing more to increase followers on social media, that is where young supporters ie future punters will come from in all likliehood. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: At the end of the day the club can’t control who listens to Radio Norfolk and KLFM or reads the EDP and Lynn News but they have to cover those angles. However they could and probably should be doing more to increase followers on social media, that is where young supporters ie future punters will come from in all likliehood. Social media is definitely were the next generation of fans will come from - speedway sadly is stuck in the 1970s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, ray c said: quite agree I remember a few years ago when lakeside announced all there riders on a video all in one go I thought that was very affective . It didn't effect their dwindling support unfortunately though.It's not the social media,twitter etc that affect the support imo as Lakeside would still be here now.There is just so much else to do nowadays.There was no social media etc back in the 60s,70s,80s the attendances were better imo as there just wasn't anything else to do. Remember dad saying you can stay at nan and grandad's tonight or go to the speedway,speedway won every time.Now it would be do you want to go to the speedway or spend the next few hours on playstation,xbox watch whatever you want on tv.And thats just staying in doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, tellboy said: It didn't effect their dwindling support unfortunately though.It's not the social media,twitter etc that affect the support imo as Lakeside would still be here now.There is just so much else to do nowadays.There was no social media etc back in the 60s,70s,80s the attendances were better imo as there just wasn't anything else to do. Remember dad saying you can stay at nan and grandad's tonight or go to the speedway,speedway won every time.Now it would be do you want to go to the speedway or spend the next few hours on playstation,xbox watch whatever you want on tv.And thats just staying in doors. I'd suggest lazy parenting also comes into it. Far more parents these days instead of engaging with their kids and taking them to places like speedway, just let them sit on their consoles/phones etc and do their own thing binge watching Netflix. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 I very much doubt there is a next generation of speedway fans. I still go to meetings ,but most of them are boring. Speedway isn't what it was, no atmosphere ,no characters the the crowd love to hate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 The whole secret philosophy is so offensive to their supporters integrity. To Pi55 someone off, who has supported them for 50odd years takes some doing, but they seem to make a habit of it. As far as I'm concerned, the main reason the fans don't go any more is in respect in the way they are treated.. They say you reap what you sow... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Genuine question GRW, and I say this without agenda or taking sides particularly other than being interested in everyone’s viewpoint, why are you so keen to know information which in theory doesn’t really need to be confirmed for a few weeks yet and isn’t really a secret anyway as it can be worked out through the process of elimination? Why do you think we should know three months before the season starts rather than being drip fed to keep the club in the news? Genuinely interested and not saying you are right or wrong or having a go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Genuine question GRW, and I say this without agenda or taking sides particularly other than being interested in everyone’s viewpoint, why are you so keen to know information which in theory doesn’t really need to be confirmed for a few weeks yet and isn’t really a secret anyway as it can be worked out through the process of elimination? Why do you think we should know three months before the season starts rather than being drip fed to keep the club in the news? Genuinely interested and not saying you are right or wrong or having a go. Good question . If I ask anything like that I get shot down . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Genuine question GRW, and I say this without agenda or taking sides particularly other than being interested in everyone’s viewpoint, why are you so keen to know information which in theory doesn’t really need to be confirmed for a few weeks yet and isn’t really a secret anyway as it can be worked out through the process of elimination? Why do you think we should know three months before the season starts rather than being drip fed to keep the club in the news? Genuinely interested and not saying you are right or wrong or having a go. If the team can be worked out through the process of elimination the point of drip feeding fans for the local radio stations and papers is more or less pointless as the team is already known , so the excuse it’s for media exposure is pointless- for me the best way is do it in one hit get radio tv press along with those who sponsors the club and riders - and do a live stream via social media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, BWitcher said: I'd suggest lazy parenting also comes into it. Far more parents these days instead of engaging with their kids and taking them to places like speedway, just let them sit on their consoles/phones etc and do their own thing binge watching Netflix. Quite agree. That's what I'm trying to say is that the use of social media by the clubs don't impact on the crowds. Lucky I started taking my daughter to speedway from a young age, and she still loves it now. She's 20 now so can now take me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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