Ovalman Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 Great achievement by Woffy. Never seen so much national press coverage of the sport, even in the Mail and Independent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, iainb said: The poles have only been number 1 twice in the history of the sport... Not true. "A Pole" has only been number one twice, but as a nation, "the Poles" have been number 1 thirteen times. If you think I am splitting hairs, then you try convincing everyone that Britain is the strongest speedway nation currently... Steve Edited October 9, 2018 by chunky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, chunky said: If you think I am splitting hairs, then you try convincing everyone that Britain is the strongest speedway nation currently... Steve That's Russia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, iainb said: That's Russia Ah, okay! So Britain is the SECOND strongest speedway nation, then? Steve Edited October 9, 2018 by chunky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, chunky said: Ah, okay! So Britain is the SECOND strongest speedway nation, then? Steve You got it... Clue was in the title, Speedway of Nations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 And in the Poles own back yard, lead by Britain's greatest ever speedway rider! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, iainb said: And in the Poles own back yard, lead by Britain's greatest ever speedway rider! Rosco? Surely not. Edited October 10, 2018 by Aces51 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 Personally, I don't think Woffinden is the best ever British rider, in the same way that I don't see Lewis Hamilton as the best ever British racing driver They both have access to machinery far and away ahead in terms of performance of that which the likes of Craven, Crutcher, Brett, Boocock N, Carter, Loram, Betts etc / Hawthorn, Collins, Moss, Surtees, Hill (father & son) etc could even dream of Woffinden is the best in 2018, of that I have little doubt, but comparison with those from the past is almost impossible to gauge 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Midland Red said: Personally, I don't think Woffinden is the best ever British rider, in the same way that I don't see Lewis Hamilton as the best ever British racing driver They both have access to machinery far and away ahead in terms of performance of that which the likes of Craven, Crutcher, Brett, Boocock N, Carter, Loram, Betts etc / Hawthorn, Collins, Moss, Surtees, Hill (father & son) etc could even dream of Woffinden is the best in 2018, of that I have little doubt, but comparison with those from the past is almost impossible to gauge I think you are right to see parallels with Woffinden and Hamilton. Both made it to the top the hard way, both have been World Champion more than any other Brit in their sport and - for whatever reason - both their successes stick in the craw of some of the more "traditional" supporters in their sports. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 14 hours ago, Midland Red said: Personally, I don't think Woffinden is the best ever British rider, in the same way that I don't see Lewis Hamilton as the best ever British racing driver They both have access to machinery far and away ahead in terms of performance of that which the likes of Craven, Crutcher, Brett, Boocock N, Carter, Loram, Betts etc / Hawthorn, Collins, Moss, Surtees, Hill (father & son) etc could even dream of Woffinden is the best in 2018, of that I have little doubt, but comparison with those from the past is almost impossible to gauge But the the likes of Carter and Collins always had access to top equipment, certainly the equal of their main rivals. Let's face it some of those you have named are nowhere near the quality of Tai 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 20 hours ago, Midland Red said: Personally, I don't think Woffinden is the best ever British rider, in the same way that I don't see Lewis Hamilton as the best ever British racing driver They both have access to machinery far and away ahead in terms of performance of that which the likes of Craven, Crutcher, Brett, Boocock N, Carter, Loram, Betts etc / Hawthorn, Collins, Moss, Surtees, Hill (father & son) etc could even dream of Woffinden is the best in 2018, of that I have little doubt, but comparison with those from the past is almost impossible to gauge so does his rivals... not sure what the point is here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 When you see the difference in performance between some rider's and 'Polish Power' it's quite miraculous that Woffinden is even World Champion at all in 2018. It just thankful that the Poles struggle with pressure as individual rider's as the speed they generate from their equipment is odd compared to the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 6:22 PM, auntie doris said: Great achievement by Woffy. Never seen so much national press coverage of the sport, even in the Mail and Independent. YOU'RE obviously a mere youngster... good to see however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: When you see the difference in performance between some rider's and 'Polish Power' it's quite miraculous that Woffinden is even World Champion at all in 2018. It just thankful that the Poles struggle with pressure as individual rider's as the speed they generate from their equipment is odd compared to the rest. TAI has a Polish tuner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 Tbf it's only Zmarzlik whose speed seems on another planet. Woffy is as quick as any of the other poles. Have to say in the final gp I was wondering how it was possible Zmarzlik could be so quick... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) Tai coming to my home town to a meeting and not riding in it is a perfect example of why I don’t like him, racing is what he does it’s what we as fans pay to see Edited October 12, 2018 by THE DEAN MACHINE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said: YOU'RE obviously a mere youngster... good to see however. I'm 90!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dodds Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 FWIW I personally think Peter Collins is the greatest British rider of my time - stretching back to 1968. Tai isn't far behind him and, unless he retires, will soon surpass PC so the answer to the OP is ... not yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, auntie doris said: I'm 90!!! NOT much you haven't seen then ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 hours ago, phillipsr said: so does his rivals... not sure what the point is here. I didn't name any of "his rivals" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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