stevebrum Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Rickyb said: What I didn't understand as I watched with foreign commentary is why was Simon Lambert in heat 15? As a reserve replacement for a rider excluded for breaking the tapes, the only option unless you put Ellis off 15m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Not without a no8 FB! That isn't a rule though is it? Didn't Somerset operate without a no.8 in the semi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, foreverblue said: As I said before the meeting Morris would be a poor guest and although Ellis messed it up he was clearly faster than Morris, both teams should have used r/r in my view, having Morris as a guest is no benefit. I don't know why Worrall should have been excluded as some have said but he rode really well, the way he breezed past Proctor was excellent. There were one or two passes but not many, apart from Worrall there was heat 1 swapping places between Harris and Lambert and Klindt passing Lambert. I think Harris was lucky not to be excluded in heat 13 when he touched the tapes, not surprised Ellis was excluded as he had been warned already but I was fully expecting both to go and of course MPT was very unlucky to be excluded, Freddie saw a gap which closed as MPT continued on the racing line and took him down. Once again Klindt was terrific after a slow start, he may have had some indifferent meetings in the championship but always rides well for us. Even with a 16 point lead it isn't all over but I doubt the bookies have KL as favourites anymore. We should dump Morris and go with r/r at Kings Lynn. So for those that were there and heard the interval interview with Rosco (spannering for Morris) Morris had 2 punctures - the first when he spun off and the second after subsequently using Jacobsen's tyre - and a burned out clutch!! Incidentally Rosco also said the track was brilliant - the best its been all season! As for the meeting, I reckon Craig Ackroyd got every decision right except the Jacobsen/Palm Toft one. Whilst the Pirates now have a 16 point advantage - more than most thought or hoped for - there is still the distinct possibility that the Stars can do exactly the same on Wednesday and reduce the deficit after 4 heats. Set-ups and gating will be crucial and with both teams having great team spirit I reckon it'll go down to the wire. The joint decision by the SCB and BSPA with the agreement of both clubs to allow Morris and Ellis to ride for the same teams in both legs, came about due to Dale Allitt's proposal to Matt Ford following the outbursts of bad publicity across all social media platforms. Today's BSPA meeting will undoubtedly propose a further tweak to the play-off rules for future years to allow a guest rider to have an average of 5% higher then the rider he replaces in BOTH HOME AND AWAY LEGS! Makes it much fairer for all at a time of the season when replacements can be scarce due to the season having finished for many. Edited October 9, 2018 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: So for those that were there and heard the interval interview with Rosco (spannering for Morris) Morris had 2 punctures - the first when he spun off and the second after subsequently using Jacobsen's tyre - and a burned out clutch!! Incidentally Rosco also said the track was brilliant - the best its been all season! As for the meeting, I reckon Craig Ackroyd got every decision right except the Jacobsen/Palm Toft one. Whilst the Pirates now have a 16 point advantage - more than most thought or hoped for - there is still the distinct possibility that the Stars can do exactly the same on Wednesday and reduce the deficit after 4 heats. Set-ups and gating will be crucial and with both teams having great team spirit I reckon it'll go down to the wire. The exclusion of Palm Toft was bad enough,but his injury made 10 times worse IMO.Not being able to ride again left Allit up s#it creek espiecially with Elliss's starting antics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: So for those that were there and heard the interval interview with Rosco (spannering for Morris) Morris had 2 punctures - the first when he spun off and the second after subsequently using Jacobsen's tyre - and a burned out clutch!! Incidentally Rosco also said the track was brilliant - the best its been all season! As for the meeting, I reckon Craig Ackroyd got every decision right except the Jacobsen/Palm Toft one. Whilst the Pirates now have a 16 point advantage - more than most thought or hoped for - there is still the distinct possibility that the Stars can do exactly the same on Wednesday and reduce the deficit after 4 heats. Set-ups and gating will be crucial and with both teams having great team spirit I reckon it'll go down to the wire. No didn't hear that, I may have been in the bar! Who listens to Rosco these days! Well Morris was last when he fell which I also mentioned before the meeting that he generally has a fall on his own and he didn't retire from any other race. Edited October 9, 2018 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 Any update on MPT and what he has done to his wrist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Fromafar said: The exclusion of Palm Toft was bad enough,but his injury made 10 times worse IMO.Not being able to ride again left Allit up s#it creek espiecially with Elliss's starting antics. Is Ellis a Poole asset ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 25 minutes ago, foreverblue said: That isn't a rule though is it? Didn't Somerset operate without a no.8 in the semi? Yeah and it totally screwed them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 so to sum up. Crap track. Crap racing. Crap refereeing. Everything else is open to discussion.!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 25 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: So for those that were there and heard the interval interview with Rosco (spannering for Morris) Morris had 2 punctures - the first when he spun off and the second after subsequently using Jacobsen's tyre - and a burned out clutch!! Incidentally Rosco also said the track was brilliant - the best its been all season! As for the meeting, I reckon Craig Ackroyd got every decision right except the Jacobsen/Palm Toft one. Whilst the Pirates now have a 16 point advantage - more than most thought or hoped for - there is still the distinct possibility that the Stars can do exactly the same on Wednesday and reduce the deficit after 4 heats. Set-ups and gating will be crucial and with both teams having great team spirit I reckon it'll go down to the wire. The joint decision by the SCB and BSPA with the agreement of both clubs to allow Morris and Ellis to ride for the same teams in both legs, came about due to Dale Allitt's proposal to Matt Ford following the outbursts of bad publicity across all social media platforms. Today's BSPA meeting will undoubtedly propose a further tweak to the play-off rules for future years to allow a guest rider to have an average of 5% higher then the rider he replaces in BOTH HOME AND AWAY LEGS! Makes it much fairer for all at a time of the season when replacements can be scarce due to the season having finished for many. So it was KL's idea for us to keep Morris then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, jrs said: Is Ellis a Poole asset ? No he is an "asset" of Swindon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, jrs said: Is Ellis a Poole asset ? Swindon I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 The outcry over the refs performance is ringing out loud and clear on all social media platforms with some asking how he could be so wrong. As unpalatable as it is, it’s obvious why the decisions went the way they did and it’s not the first time this has happened with Ford involved. After years and years of cheating he feels bulletproof and now hardly attempts to hide his actions - unbelievable and sad in equal measures. I reckon another 10% will be knocked off the fan base with this latest fiasco and after years of this you have to ask when will it end? 10% equals around £500k a year less coming into the sport but that’s like water off a ducks back for the cheating scumbags down there who have no real love for this fabulous sport of ours. Dark days for the sport once again. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, krompa said: Give me a break! I follow British leagues from Poland but it is beyond all standards. How can he ride if his avarage is too high???? This is basic rule, cannot be changed simply because both teams agreed. That makes the sport a joke. Completely. Can't imagine such think in professional leagues in Poland. British speedway is state of mind. 100% Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Col said: British Speedway is in a mess, I can barely bring myself to attend any meeting. From my understanding (albeit possibly out of date) a guest rider can have a higher average than the one they replace by a small %. Looking at the latest GSA's on the BSPA site, Hans Andersen averages 8.00 but can be replaced by a guest upto 8.40. That would be 5%. All of this is irrelevant since those latest stats have: Brady Kurtz 7.11 Nick Morris 6.92 The % is applied to home meetings. Not away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 25 minutes ago, Pirates Of Poole said: Any update on MPT and what he has done to his wrist? Broken hand, howarth in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 43 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: So for those that were there and heard the interval interview with Rosco (spannering for Morris) Morris had 2 punctures - the first when he spun off and the second after subsequently using Jacobsen's tyre - and a burned out clutch!! Incidentally Rosco also said the track was brilliant - the best its been all season! As for the meeting, I reckon Craig Ackroyd got every decision right except the Jacobsen/Palm Toft one. Whilst the Pirates now have a 16 point advantage - more than most thought or hoped for - there is still the distinct possibility that the Stars can do exactly the same on Wednesday and reduce the deficit after 4 heats. Set-ups and gating will be crucial and with both teams having great team spirit I reckon it'll go down to the wire. The joint decision by the SCB and BSPA with the agreement of both clubs to allow Morris and Ellis to ride for the same teams in both legs, came about due to Dale Allitt's proposal to Matt Ford following the outbursts of bad publicity across all social media platforms. Today's BSPA meeting will undoubtedly propose a further tweak to the play-off rules for future years to allow a guest rider to have an average of 5% higher then the rider he replaces in BOTH HOME AND AWAY LEGS! Makes it much fairer for all at a time of the season when replacements can be scarce due to the season having finished for many. Given there was a crater for most of the season on bend 1 that Apollo 13 could have landed in, I don't think that is much to shout about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 22 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Swindon I think. Cheers, with Adam having previously spent time at Poole just wondered if he was their asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WTF1 Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 36 minutes ago, Odds On said: so to sum up. Crap track. Crap racing. Crap refereeing. Everything else is open to discussion.!! Very poor advert for a speedway meeting on TV, so boring, switched off after heat 12, gate and go crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 why is the poole track so bad, it use to be one of the best race tracks? Why not get someone in to sort it out and keep it the same every week...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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