Wolfie456 Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Well I have just read through this thread with tears of laughter in my eyes. What a load of Poole haters on here tonight. Mind you I do agree with one thing. The ref made a howler. He warned Ellis. And what happened? Ellis then rolled to two victories. The crowd clearly saw him roll but the ref let it go. Very unfair. What’s the point of warning a rider then allowing him to get away with it twice more? Elliss got his come uppance in heat 13 and heat 15, but the six points he scored shouldn’t have happened. As for everything else, I though the ref got it all correct. Toft took a dive, could easily have stayed up. This is the final. Racing is hard. If there was the slightest of touches, it wasn’t enough and like Doyle last week, the refs are wised up. Pirate fans couldn’t have asked or expected for more. A 16 point lead. In all the playoff history I can’t remember such a lead being turned over, so Kings Lynn will have to break records to win the title this year. A fabulous performance from the boys, who even after allowing Kings Lynn a comeback mid meeting pulled away again. Is 16 enough? Possibly. Possibly not. Middlo said in the post meeting conference that Buster Chapman has already spent the day cooking the track to make it ultra grippy, as he did last time when Poole visited. The boys said they were all expecting it to be grippy and will be ready for it. Very pleased at half time. The boys have said there will be no complacency and they will be going to Kings Lynn to win. Expecting Kings Lynn to come out all guns blazing so we will need to keep it tight. Or Poole having the biggest choke of all time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 HAVE always refrained from getting involved with any of the Poole versus The Rest arguments on here. But some of the comments about the refereeing last night are borderline. Decisions are subjective, often a matter of opinion rather than fact. Referees will sometimes make a wrong decision. They are human. But I know Craig Ackroyd. To suggest he is either biased or, far worse, corrupt, is a step too far. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyb Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Ellis went through the tapes. Again. I see, thank you very much I didn't see heat 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Just watched heat 12. You are right. Jakobsen was through into the lead as Toft had drifted off the racing line. People think this is a non contact sport but that’s not true of course. Two riders cannot be excluded in the same race for touching the tapes. Ellis was on a warning and didn’t need to touch the tape to go. edit. Just watched heat 13. Ellis call correct. He definately touched the tapes before Harris. No suprise he was rolling all night. I thought in the two heats won by Ellis, he was as still as could be expected and got them right. Certainly if you compare them with typical starts by, for example, Hans Andersen, he was as still as the Dalai Lama meditating. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulboy Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just incompetent then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Just watched heat 12. You are right. Jakobsen was through into the lead as Toft had drifted off the racing line. People think this is a non contact sport but that’s not true of course. Two riders cannot be excluded in the same race for touching the tapes. Ellis was on a warning and didn’t need to touch the tape to go. edit. Just watched heat 13. Ellis call correct. He definately touched the tapes before Harris. No suprise he was rolling all night. Wonder if you be saying same if Jackobsen had ended up on his arse.I very much doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulboy Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: HAVE always refrained from getting involved with any of the Poole versus The Rest arguments on here. But some of the comments about the refereeing last night are borderline. Decisions are subjective, often a matter of opinion rather than fact. Referees will sometimes make a wrong decision. They are human. But I know Craig Ackroyd. To suggest he is either biased or, far worse, corrupt, is a step too far. Just incompetent then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krompa Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 Who is guesting for Brady? Nick Morris 6.91 too high (Brady's avg is 6.75). If MPT is injured, not many options left for KL. Wright, Howarth, Wells? And of course Iversen's health is crucial. Ellis will not score double figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: HAVE always refrained from getting involved with any of the Poole versus The Rest arguments on here. But some of the comments about the refereeing last night are borderline. Decisions are subjective, often a matter of opinion rather than fact. Referees will sometimes make a wrong decision. They are human. But I know Craig Ackroyd. To suggest he is either biased or, far worse, corrupt, is a step too far. I agree with your last sentence. However, with the video evidence available his decision to exclude Palm-Toft is very difficult to justify. It was perfectly clear from the front view of the incident that Jakobsen collided with him and took his leg away, causing him to fall. We are all human and all make mistakes but he had time to view the video and to make a considered decision and somehow still got it wrong. Unfortunately, the consequences had a significant effect on the final result of the meeting and possibly, the result of the play off final. Edited October 9, 2018 by Aces51 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, krompa said: Who is guesting for Brady? Nick Morris 6.91 too high (Brady's avg is 6.75). If MPT is injured, not many options left for KL. Wright, Howarth, Wells? And of course Iversen's health is crucial. Ellis will not score double figures. Morris is riding. All legal and sactioned. If you go back about 30 pages it was discussed in detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: HAVE always refrained from getting involved with any of the Poole versus The Rest arguments on here. But some of the comments about the refereeing last night are borderline. Decisions are subjective, often a matter of opinion rather than fact. Referees will sometimes make a wrong decision. They are human. But I know Craig Ackroyd. To suggest he is either biased or, far worse, corrupt, is a step too far. So what was your view of the referees performance ? You always sit on the fence pontificating do you really believe it was acceptable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulboy Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 I thought Kings Lynn did well to battle back after an appalling start to last night, they at least have a chance of making the second leg interesting which didn't look likely after 5 heats. I have to agree with the majority on the refereeing decisions, the Jakobsen one was a no-brainer, astonished that the yellow light went on, also thought Harris touched the tapes before Ellis but that was pretty hard to call. Don't understand the fuss about Worrall or Ellis, he made two textbook starts and messed up the rest. At least they gave us something to talk about as the racing was dull in the extreme, I think only really Lambert in heat 15 made a proper pass all night, as those in heats 1 and 2 were due to KL riders foolishly leaving the blue groove. It looks to me that Poole's name is on the trophy, amazing really when they were bottom in July, bet you didn't know that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 16 points is obviously a good lead in a final but I think Poole needed something like that with King's Lynn being so strong at home, this is certainly far from over and I expect it to be pretty close tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, krompa said: Who is guesting for Brady? Nick Morris 6.91 too high (Brady's avg is 6.75). If MPT is injured, not many options left for KL. Wright, Howarth, Wells? And of course Iversen's health is crucial. Ellis will not score double figures. If you read the thread it is Nick Morris, this has been agreed by both teams after yet another bspa rule cock up has come to light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 hours ago, BobC said: Only able to watch the meeting on TV. Referee got the MPT decision totally wrong. No intent from Jakobsen, he just picked up grip and it shot him forward. Absurd decision. Poole have got a great chance now. However, dont start counting the chickens. Just remember Workington v Edinburgh! I'm sure Klindt will be reminding them all of this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: So “The Peoples Team” Poole Pirates have a reasonable lead to take north tomorrow. Raced last night on a fairly prepared track, will the compliment be reciprocated? I somehow doubt it. I don’t think the word “racing” will come into it tomorrow. Super grippy IMO with huge gaps between riders. It will almost certainly be a gating competition. The boys need to be ready for it and it won’t be an entertaining meeting racing wise. And I am expecting Kings Lynn to take a healthy lead before the track slickens off. No last places will be the order of the day. Come on boys we can do this! Gating competition ??? Wot ??? and last night wasn't??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June01 Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 Can someone who was at this meeting confirm the result of heat 15 please? Official scorecard says Ellis rode off a handicap but Poole's site says Simon replaced him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post krompa Posted October 9, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, A ORLOV said: If you read the thread it is Nick Morris, this has been agreed by both teams after yet another bspa rule cock up has come to light. Give me a break! I follow British leagues from Poland but it is beyond all standards. How can he ride if his avarage is too high???? This is basic rule, cannot be changed simply because both teams agreed. That makes the sport a joke. Completely. Can't imagine such think in professional leagues in Poland. British speedway is state of mind. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, tellboy said: Ht 14 was it where he and his bike was off on the onfield It's allowed so get real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, June01 said: Can someone who was at this meeting confirm the result of heat 15 please? Official scorecard says Ellis rode off a handicap but Poole's site says Simon replaced him. Lambert replaced him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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